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icon Re: The Disclosure Project , teorije o kontaktu sa vanzemaljcima25.06.2009. u 23:41 - pre 180 meseci
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http://www.examiner.com/x-3766...09m6d18-The-race-to-disclosure

UFO: The race to disclosure.

When Colorado political activist Jeff Peckman strolls onto the stage at the Tivoli Student Center at Auraria Campus in Denver, Colorado tonight to introduce Steven Greer, the race for disclosure in 2009 will have begun in earnest. The moment represents a meeting of one of the longest running efforts to effect acknowledgment of the ET presence and one of the youngest.
Exopolitics makes strange bedfellows. The methods of the two activists are markedly different, but their goal is the same. The summer of 2009 has become an old fashioned horse race to see whose method of changing 'reality' will invoke results first.
Greer and Peckman are not the only horses in the race. Other contenders include Steve Bassett's Million Fax on Washington, a healthy world-wide exopolitical movement that will convene in Barcelona in July and the Obama administration itself. A late entry which could upset the field is the emerging involvement of the technologically adroit Facebook Twitterati that can be thought of as Disclosure 2.0
There are at least 8 horses in this race ranging from entire governments to the ephemeral power of P2P social networking. Exactly how it will shake out is anyone's guess and Las Vegas may well begin laying odds on the sports book as to which disclosure movement will make a break down the home stretch and take the win at the wire.
Here are the handicapper's notes:
Dr. Steven M. Greer
www.disclosureproject.org
Greer is as old-school disclosure as you get. It was Greer who coined the term ‘Disclosure’ with the historic Disclosure Project Press Conference at the National Press Club in Washington, DC on May 9, 2001. He will talk to Peckman's public access politics crowd of his plans for—and the reasons why it's crucial that—the government of the United States of America begin to publicly acknowledge the truth: There are advanced intelligences operating sophisticated technology in and around Earth's biosphere. And there have been for decades, probably centuries.
Greer's target is the US Congress. For years, Greer has been agitating for congressional hearings and has assembled a blue-ribbon panel of high ranking military and esteemed civilian whistle-blowers prepared to testify before Congress if the right opportunity to do so presents itself. It hasn't done so, perhaps in part because Greer's impatience doesn't allow for the nuance of inside the beltway deal-making. One promising step towards disclosure was unwittingly thwarted by Greer himself, when he pressed too hard to be included in behind the scenes discussions and threatened to go public if they took place without him. The preliminary deal folded under the resulting pressure.
Patience is not an asset in abundant supply among disclosure advocates although Greer seems to have learned from the experience. His appearance before Peckman's crowd, the second year in a row, is a step toward community building within the disclosure movement. It's a key component of a winning solution.
Meanwhile, Greer has his eyes on the prize. It's not disclosure itself that is the ultimate goal, it's the benefits of sensible contact with advanced non-human intelligence. In addition to the Disclosure Project, Greer has founded a non-profit research foundation named The Orion Project to develop new, out-of-the-box energy solutions.
Advanced energy options is a common goal among disclosure advocates, Dr. Edgar Mitchell, the sixth man to walk on the moon has founded Quantrek with similar goals. There is increasing evidence to indicate that ET is finding a way to quietly assist certain terrestrial research scientists towards novel solutions to critical problems, the result being advanced technologies that might help a green revolution to occur.
The ace up Greer's sleeve is his claim to be working with 'a major G7 nation'—presumed by a number of disclosure-watchers to be France—which he says is prepared to initiate open contact publicly and acknowledge it directly to the media. If another major country noses out the US with an move of such magnitude, the geopolitical dynamic will change dramatically.
Morning line:
If the G7 country proceeds: 1:1
Race over - America loses
If the G7 country withholds: 4:1
Congress has a habit of tying up controversial proposals in sub-committees, 'doing something' by marking time. By the time there will be a healthy majority in favor of open hearings, the race will already be over. The call for congressional hearings goes all the way back to former CIA Director Roscoe Hillenkoetter.
Odds the G7 country will proceed: 2 :1


America squandered the respect it had as the moral leader of the free word during the last two administrations. Other countries are less inclined than they used to be to defer to American policy across the board.
Steven Bassett
www.paradigmresearchgroup.org
Steve Bassett is the Executive Director of Paradigm Research Group and the political action committee X-PPAC. Bassett is second generation old school disclosure. While nominally pressuring the Obama administration to be forthcoming with the truth, Bassett's main focus is actually on the media, specifically the White House correspondents association.
Until and unless someone raises a hand and starts asking the right questions, the truth embargo—as Bassett labels it—will stand unchallenged. The UFO/Alien issue has traditionally the third rail of American politics and the press has handed the political establishment a free pass to avoid the issue simply by not bringing it up. It's Bassett's mission in life to end that practice.
His Paradigm Research Group is in the third phase of a 'Million Fax on Washington' project which is intent upon documenting public concern about the ET truth embargo and expressions of that concern made to the oval office by concerned citizens.
In a recent press conference at the National Press Club, Bassett made it clear that the longer the Obama administration avoids the ET/UFO issue, the more it risks being upstaged by another country.
"Our republic and its press will rise or fall together." —Joseph Pulitzer
It is increasingly clear of the extent to which the press failed the country during the run-up to the last two wars and in the investigation of the events of 9-11, serving largely as a public relations firm for the White House and allowing themselves to be 'embedded' with US forces during the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. In the process american journalism lost any pretense of objectivity, but it was arguably an act of self-defense. Independent journalists in Iraq have suffered alarming casualties during direct and indirect attacks on their positions by coalition forces.
With the advent of a new more sensible policy on the part of the administration towards openness and transparency, there is a semblance of a return to an investigative agency independent of the policy makers and willing to ask the hard questions. If this continues it's a matter of time before some brave newsperson asks Obama one or more of the incisive questions on Bassett's list.
At that point the administration will no longer have the luxury of ignoring the issue.
Morning line:
Odds Bassett will provoke the press: 3:1


There is a small but detectible shift in media posture on this issue. In TV reports of UFO sightings across the country, snickers are getting quieter, the ridicule diminishing, the reporting in the field more direct. It may not be imminent, but it is a matter of time before the Washington Press Corps realizes that it's time to do their job and makes disclosure an issue. Larry King already has.
National Exopolitics


Exopolitics Institute
The Exopolitics movement in America, lead by Dr. Michael Salla is busy laying vital groundwork for disclosure. Salla is documenting the undisclosed history of the issue in a series of investigative historical reports in his role as the Honolulu Exopolitics Examiner. His Exopolitics Institute is offering training for professionals in the field of Exopolitics. Once the issue gets on the table Salla will be a source of information as mainstream media and academia race to get up to speed on a portion of history they were never taught in grade school.
The rap on Salla is that he may be depending too much on documentation whose validity has not or can not be proven. Closer coordination with investigators like Bob and Ryan Wood may be needed to provide a provinance for the information Salla is refining out of a vein of secret documents laced with disinformation.
Morning line:
Odds Salla can break the story: 9:1

Salla's paradigm is too far from mainstream understanding to be totally effective on his own. The good news is he is not alone and his work is building a bridge between the uneducated skepticism of mainstream media and the emerging respectability of direct media. It is only in a post-disclosure world that Salla's work will be widely recognized.



The Obama Administration
It's hard to handicap the Obama administration itself. All of the obvious factors and signals are there, if you know what to look for, but the challenge is to make a dramatic move on this issue in the midst of a depression at home and while revising US foreign policy overseas without clear and obvious widespread grassroots political support—the kind of thing that got him into office in the first place.
The political capital is there if Obama knows how to identify it. Polls show that 50+% of the American people believe some UFOs are extraterrestrial space craft and 85+% believe their government is not telling the truth of the matter. His entire administration is based on telling the truth. On his first day, Obama signed a directive to his administration declaring openness and transparency to be the guiding principles of his term of office.
He has stacked the deck in his administration with key players from the Clinton administration—many of which are known to be pre-disposed to be in favor of UFO disclosure. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was fully aware of Laurance Rockefeller's three-year effort to get President Clinton to release all UFO files in government hands into the public domain as was Obama transition team leader John Podesta, CIA Director Leon Panetta, Vice President Al Gore and then Congressman Bill Richardson.

Podesta made the point abundantly clear in an address to the National Press Club.
Obama in his finest moments looks like a leader with planetary considerations in mind. He has the proper heritage to unite disparate cultural and religious factions.
Were he to find the right way to manage disclosure it would make him a shoo-in for president of the world, were such an office to exist.
But given the invisible stigma still associated with the issue, chances are he will await proper pressure from the public or the press, or both.
Morning line:
Odds Obama will simply address the issue: 4.5:1
It may be that the only reason Obama has not made the announcement in a speech to the nation is that they are still working out the wording—it's a monumental moment and Obama is not by accident known as an eloquent speaker. He may be lining up support during his early trips abroad. Or he may be waiting for just the right moment.
The 40th anniversary of the giant leap for mankind of sending a man to the moon and returning him to earth is coming up next month. A joint announcement by Obama and Neil Armstrong would clear up some long standing questions about Armstrong's long reticence to talk about the grandest adventure any man ever took—and why we stopped suddenly and retreated to low earth orbit to build a space station.



Jeff Peckman
Extraterrestrial Affairs Commission Ballot Initiative
There was a time when Jeff Peckman would have answered a call from the White House to consult on the issue, but it is no more. Peckman insists that today he would not take the call from the President, because the more effective route to disclosure is hands-on, grass-roots, one mind at a time, old-fashioned American can-do community organizing.
If all politics is local, all paradigm shift is personal.
Peckman has tapped a pair of citizen empowerment processes—the ballot initiative, which lets the citizens make their own laws, bypassing the back-room powerbrokering of the legislature, and direct media such as Examiner which bypasses the editorial truth embargo enforced by the corporate sponsors.
Last year's ballot initiative was so effective it landed Peckman on David Letterman, which brought the issue national attention. This year's effort is already off to a better start then the previous one and Greer's continued support has already become mainstream media news.
The mirror image media effort of a cadre of Examiner writers—of which Peckman is the Denver UFO Examiner—is also having an effect: One morning last week, Examiner articles took up 9 of the 10 places in ranking by relevance on Google News under "UFO" search.
Also, the same day, four Colorado Examiners with UFO-related stories were in the top 5 out of 180+ Examiners nationally in the "Gadgets & Tech" category.
The otherwise under-reported UFO story is turning out to be one of the success stories of the direct media paradigm. As direct media gains credibility through responsible reporting and fact checking, it's becoming increasingly clear that the UFO/ET story is now one that can no longer be contained by a controlled or cowed press.
Morning line:

Odds Peckman will gain enough signatures to place the initiative on the ballet: 1.3:1
Peckman learned the first time around what not to do and a cadre of young volunteers, coupled with funding and support that is beginning to flow into Denver make it the leading contender at the moment to win the race to disclosure. Thanks to Peckman's media savvy the story is going mainstream.



Mainstream Media
Will the mainstream media finally simply stop approaching the reports of UFO observations that are increasing daily on a world wide basis with the quizzical 'Did the observer see an alien space craft? I don't know' tone of voice?
All it would take to effect disclosure on an effortless basis would be for the media to just start reporting the UFO reports made daily to the National UFO Reporting Center or MUFON or local news outlets with straightforward clarity and in a couple of months the public would realize how prevalent the phenomenon actually is.
To be sure there are frequent misidentifications and repeated pranks that would need to be weed out by a responsible reporting staff. Just recently a 400 foot tall research balloon drifted over Arizona at over 100 thousand feet, prompting numerous reports of an unidentified flying object. It was identified by the local MUFON chapter and the story put to bed. But any number of true UFO reports, large black triangles and V-shape craft come in weekly which are not addressed.
Odds the mainstream media will begin to report the phenomenon objectively: 6:1
Larry King has already begun the national debate on the subject with a series of shows on the issue.
International Exopolitics
Can the international exopolitics movement gain enough momentum to raise the issue to public awareness?
As recently as several years ago, the question would have been rhetorical. But the July 25/26 European Exopolitics Summit in Barcelona, Spain signals the emergence of a world wide movement to treat the matter of advanced intelligence operating in earth's biosphere responsibly. Greer, Bassett, Salla from the US are all scheduled to speak, along with England's Nick Pope, the Italian Maurizio Baiata, Robert Freischer from Germany and an all-star supporting cast, so there already is strong international flavor to the event.
It's a European counterpoint to the X-Conference and a combination of the two is already being discussed as a potential World Exopolitics Forum, which would unite the pro-disclosure voices into one common planetary message—which may be exactly the event ET is waiting for to begin open contact.
Odds the European Exopolitics convention will include a bombshell announcement: 6:1



Disclosure 2.0

The long-shot late-entry in the ET/UFO disclosure sweepstakes are social networkers who are jacked in and can self assemble a massive social movement at the drop of a tweet. Clay Shirky described the ridiculously easy group forming power of the social or semantic web in his book Here Comes Everybody. The game changer in the Obama victory was the massive peer-2-peer networked support of the Facebook enabled electorate.
Social media is easily dismissed by those not cognizant of its immense power as a mindless diversion for high-schoolers to text each other in class with peer-group trivia instead of passing notes like we did in the old days.
Such assessments don't take into account the power that can be wielded by the knowledgeable cybernauts once they become aware of an issue. John Perry Barlow, a founding father of the Electronic Frontier Foundation is an example. He spent the last several days fighting a battle to make sure the Iranian election fraud resistance movement had the kinds of secure twitter proxy servers needed to maintain vital communications amidst a violent and chaotic atmosphere of cybernetic repression by the Iranian information state. His facebook page reads like a 21st century version of Paul Revere's diary as Barlow broadcast coded messages on his facebook page that described the current availability of secure networked communications for the Iranian students and protesters.
Make no mistake about it—the Twitterati can make a profound difference in any issue they become passionate about. The only reason they are not a factor in the race to disclosure is that many of them simply don't know the facts of the matter.
To that end, I'm making a call for those who want to volunteer some technical assistance and server capability to a movement we'll call Disclosure 2.0. The plans are in place for a series of social networking tools and processes which will enable disclosure to proceed on a peer-2-peer basis at the speed electrons go through copper.
If you either have expertise in Facebook App development or can provide server support, contact me at my facebook page and we'll talk about taking disclosure viral.
Two basic steps have been taken, the formation of the World Exopolitics Network Facebook Group at Laughlin earlier this year, and the release onto YouTube of Disclosure 1.0 by Jake Gould, which establishes a baseline conceptual framework for viral disclosure.
Odds that a viral Disclosure 2.0 movement will render formal announcements redundant: 9:1
At the moment, the Disclosure 2.0 is a long shot. But those odd can change in a big hurry.


ET

The biggest question mark of all is the advanced intelligences themselves. They are after all the enigma at the source of the debate. Clearly, while they have made dramatic gestures from time to time, they have chosen to take a gentle approach to humanity, awaiting the moment when it can demonstrate that it is ready for contact and will conduct itself responsibly. There is no end to the speculation as to the mindset and motives of ET or whatever it turns out to be, so there is no sense in starting.
That said, UFO sightings reports are up dramatically world wide and new technology for acquiring the reports and transmuting them into viable news streams is close to coming online. Clearly as the crises mount on planet Earth, UFO sightings are becoming more and more obvious. Is there a tipping point where they just decide to show up, uninvited and settle the issue. That is very hard to say.
Odds that ET will disclose themselves: 11:1

The Stakes


The truth is we are not even alone on the planet. But the prevailing consensus myth as it persists in mainstream media is that none of the mounting evidence in the skies above us and in the personal experience of hundreds of thousands of witnesses should be taken for what it is.
The planet is in the midst of a paradigm shift of historic proportions and its effects can be seen everywhere you look. Large scale systems are breaking down, reaching the end of their viability as they scale beyond organic reason. Faced with multiple crises of environmental abuse, increasingly unpredictable weather, war, poverty and resource mismanagement, all rooted in an inability to develop a sustainable lifestyle, humanity is at a crossroads.
In order to transcend our condition, the disclosure advocates content, we must first come to our senses and admit what the evidence tells us. We must over come the paranoid xenophobia that keeps us marked as a species too immature to be trusted with advanced technology or allowed to conduct spacefaring commerce and cultural exchange.
A vanishingly small percentage of the population knows any part of the truth to any degree and they persist in keeping it hidden in compartmentalized secrecy and maintaining a response posture that includes sending up armed fighters to investigate the massive silent craft the traverse—fly cannot be an accurate term—the skies over places like Phoenix, Stephensville, the Hudson Valley, Lubbock, New Jersey.
The political activists maintain that we can no longer afford the luxury of letting a small, unelected, unaccountable, unidentifiable group of people—who by now have a larger vested interest in maintaining the status quo than in serving the greater good of mankind—embargo the truth of ET reality and prevent open, peaceful and ethical contact with the advance intelligences that operate in our biosphere.
The only way you can make sense of this time is to look to the last time it happened, the Copernican revolution. It was a shift that triggered one of the greatest bursts of advancement mankind has ever seen.
That the earth orbited the sun and not vice versa seemed paradoxical to common observation at the time and it took a lifetime to accomplish, but in the end mankind grew to understand a greater truth.


Handicapping a winner.


Barack Obama has his hands full with a world economy in the toilet, a couple of hot wars running and a couple more threatening to start. But he has the diplomacy, he has the intellect, he has the vision and he has the staff to effect disclosure at the conduct of a press conference. Can he do the political calculus that results in a decision to announce something of the truth? Or will another nation beat him to the punch and go down in history to be the first to admit what the public by and large already know is going on?
Can Disclosure 2.0, fired by the immense power of social media that elected Obama, drive an understanding of the ET reality into popular acceptance through the barriers of denial and ridicule.
If the government does not disclose before the citizens become fully aware, it risks becoming irrelevant.
Meanwhile, a half a dozen wild cards remain hidden in the deck.
Will the military industrial complex Eisenhower and Kennedy tried to warn us about mount a false flag 'alien invasion' in a last ditch effort to control the spin, maintain the fear, uncertainty and doubt they have used to manage the population to date?
Could an appearance by Edgar Mitchell on Charlie Rose break the mainstream media truth embargo and win a Pulitzer Prize for television talk show journalism?
Can a Non Governmental Organization address to the United Nations serve as a citizens announcement that they already know what the governments have been scared to tell them and thus effect a reverse disclosure?
Will the assault of direct media in the form of Examiner writers, who consistently rank highest in public readership on the issue change the nature of the increasingly less relevant 'mainstream' media's coverage to the point where UFO reporting is done on a steady basis with a straight face?
Any of these things—and any number of them can happen and may happen soon.
The race is on.
If I was a betting man, I'd box Peckman, Greer, Bassett and Disclosure 2.0.
Who will win?
In the long run, humanity wins if the paradigm shifts.
And the odds on that are close to 1:1.
There are too many horses in the race now.
 
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icon Re: The Disclosure Project , teorije o kontaktu sa vanzemaljcima28.06.2009. u 00:03 - pre 180 meseci
Turci i UFO

http://www.irishtimes.com/news...d/2009/0622/1224249263841.html

UFO-spotting Turkish night-watchman regards aliens as 'the world's policemen'


WITH HIS neatly clipped moustache and checked shirt buttoned up to his neck, 51-year-old Yalcin Yalman doesn’t look like a typical trendsetter.

But the images he has filmed since 2007 from the suburban Istanbul holiday village where he works as a night-watchman have helped turn UFO-spotting, once the object of scorn, into a popular pastime among educated Turks.

“For me it’s just a hobby, a way of passing the night,” Yalman shrugged outside an Istanbul conference centre where more than 1,000 people had paid 35 lira (€16), a handsome sum by local standards, to listen to him and ufologists from around the world reveal their latest findings.

Holding cups of watery coffee selling at an extortionate three lira, elegantly dressed Turkish ladies with word-perfect English peppered speakers from as far afield as Mexico with questions about 2012 and the end of the Mayan calendar.

Former head of the UK defence ministry’s UFO desk and a well-known ufologist, Nick Pope, one of the speakers at the conference, confessed himself amazed at the turnout.

“Ufology has a bit of an image problem back home – computer nerds, trainspotters, you know,” he said. “But that is not the sense I get here at all. And there seems to be an equal balance between men and women.”

Haktan Akdogan, the organiser of last weekend’s International UFO and New Age Congress, the fourth of its kind in Turkey, put growing domestic interest in UFO sightings down to the increasingly receptive Turkish media, “more sympathetic than the media in the West”.

But he described Yalman’s films of bright crescent-shaped objects hovering over the Marmara sea, some of them apparently with humanoid figures inside them, as “a turning point for Turkish UFO studies”.

“These are the most remarkable images taken in Turkish history,” he said, sitting in the central Istanbul office of the Sirius UFO Space Science Studies Centre, which he set up in 1997.

“The authorities can no longer turn a blind eye to this phenomenon.”

Increased Turkish tolerance for aliens has spread well beyond the media and the Istanbul well-off.

When an alien appeared in front of a farmer outside the southwestern Turkish village of Narli in 2001, the farmer responded in time-honoured style: he threw rocks until the creature shot into the air “to the height of a minaret” and disappeared.

Seven years later, when a UFO reappeared in the same village, it was met by cameras, not stones.

This year, however, the most striking UFO revelations have come from members of Istanbul’s showbiz scene.

A singer who represented Turkey at the Eurovision Song Contest in 1991, Reyhan Karaca, told Turkish newspapers last month how a “prawn-coloured” alien had plucked her from her bed one night and taken her on a whistle-stop tour of earth.

“They were very friendly,” she said of the inhabitants of the spacecraft that abducted her. “We communicated using our thoughts.”

A couple of days later, Hulya Avsar, a pop singer and presenter who is a household name in Turkey, told Karaca and her talkshow audience that she had seen a UFO from the balcony of her villa too.

Yalman’s images have been savaged on several ufologist websites. Pope described them as “very interesting”, before adding that, “unless you get a proper analysis, there is a risk of misinterpretation”.

Generally, though, scepticism was in short supply among ticket-holders at the UFO conference. And the intensity of their belief paid off. At the end of the first day, as a crowd milled outside the World of Wonders hotel where the conference was held, a UFO suddenly appeared in the sky overhead.

“I think they were showing their support for us: we’re here, can you see,” Akdogan told a TV channel that ran the footage a couple of days later.

Asked whether he is unnerved by UFOs’ apparent predilection for materialising in front of him, Yalman smiled and clicked his tongue, the Turkish equivalent of shaking your head.

“I see them as the world’s policemen, up there to keep an eye on us,” he said, taking a puff of his cigarette. “I only wish they’d come down for a chat. Then we could drink tea and play a few rounds of backgammon.”
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3F3CXspsuo

Klinton priznaje da je pokusao da sazna istinu o vanzemaljcima. Saglasno sa onim sto tvrdi Steven Greer.

"I wouldnt be the first President that underlings have lied to".

Obratite paznju na Klintonovu poslednju recenicu. Moj utisak je da je nagovestio vise nego sto je smeo otvoreno da prizna.

"...you have all kinds of problems with them, but on ballance it would be a plus. And make life much more interesting! "

 
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icon Re: The Disclosure Project , teorije o kontaktu sa vanzemaljcima01.07.2009. u 00:24 - pre 180 meseci
http://www.projectcamelot.org/

http://www.americanfreedomradi...Project-Camelot-32k-062509.mp3

Citat:
30 June 2009

• Kerry, David Wilcock and myself - with a friend and colleague, 'Doc' Barham - are all traveling back from a particularly significant trip to interview a key whistleblower, Dr Pete Peterson.

We did our best to give a summary of our experience on the Camelot radio show (all of us huddled over Kerry's cellphone in the airport departure lounge) and we experienced a fair amount of chaos - which I suspect is directly proportional, in a situation such as this, to the importance of the information we were trying to impart.

We hope the attempted broadcast was not too chaotic for listeners to endure: we'll do rather better on Thursday with no interference or noise, and on a good connection. In the meantime, stay tuned: we'll write up our report soonest. We believe this may be the most significant interview we've ever done.

Dr Peterson is an extremely well-informed insider - and a most remarkable and brilliant scientist - who has come forward to talk with us publicly on video because he feels the issues he cares deeply about, and knows about, are too important to keep silent about. We salute his courage.

The nature of his testimony, as he described to us in a preliminary phone conversation, was so extraordinary that I immediately flew to the US for the weekend, where Kerry and I were joined by David Wilcock - the first time the three of us have interviewed a witness together.

Among the many things Dr Peterson spoke about at length was his strong, informed belief that there will be a melt-down of the global economy - and US infrastructure - within months; that Obama is planning to disclose the reality of ET contact by the end of the year; and that most, but not all, of the ET visitors are friendly. There is much, much more, but I am writing this in the departure lounge of the same airport, and I have no more time as my flight is being called. More later in the next few days, and our thanks again to all who helped make this possible.

--Bill






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icon Re: The Disclosure Project , teorije o kontaktu sa vanzemaljcima01.07.2009. u 23:36 - pre 180 meseci
Dr. Pete Peterson , Los Alamos National Laboratory

http://pearl1.lanl.gov/external/Research/peterson_fellow.html

http://www.lanl.gov/organization/

http://www.projectcamelot.org/

Update:

I have just landed in transit for an hour at another airport. Here is a very general list of the subjects Kerry, David and I discussed with Dr Pete Peterson:

-- The probable (in Dr Peterson's strong opinion) collapse of the economy, infrastructure, and law and order in the US
-- The planned disclosure of the ET presence
-- The Aurora (now retired from service and replaced by vehicles capable of superluminal travel) and the TR3B (the large flying triangle, which functions as an aircraft carrier)
-- Artificial intelligence and advanced robotics
-- The "information field" and how the body, the mind, and DNA really function
-- Healing modalities which work very rapidly and effectively
-- 'Rescuing' brilliant scientists out of the old USSR
-- How Mir (the Russian Space Station) was so heavy that it could not have been assembled without 'help' from our 'friends' (or, to be exact, the Russians' friends)
-- Time spent in the Vatican Library
-- The existence of Sumerian high technology
-- Quantum computing (Dr Peterson held in his hand a cheap quantum chip, which he had assembled himself in his own laboratory, with the computing power of 10,000 PCs)
-- The genius of James Clerk Maxwell, and why Einstein was wrong
-- Why you should not spend too much time in front of your new Digital TV
-- The reality of the US prison camps
-- How President Obama was (in all probability) set up
-- How he came to understand that 15% of the world's population (of all races) have ET ancestry that can be seen in their DNA - and are also resistant to mind control technologies.

And there's more. The above is an incomplete list. We will get this information out as soon as possible, but in the meantime David Wilcock and myself will both be incorporating some of this material in our presentations at the Zurich Conference on 10-12 July.

--Bill


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-- The probable (in Dr Peterson's strong opinion) collapse of the economy, infrastructure, and law and order in the US

-- The "information field" and how the body, the mind, and DNA really function

-- Healing modalities which work very rapidly and effectively

-- How Mir (the Russian Space Station) was so heavy that it could not have been assembled without 'help' from our 'friends' (or, to be exact, the Russians' friends)

-- Time spent in the Vatican Library ( Đea)

-- The existence of Sumerian high technology
-- Quantum computing (Dr Peterson held in his hand a cheap quantum chip, which he had assembled himself in his own laboratory, with the computing power of 10,000 PCs)

-- The genius of James Clerk Maxwell, and why Einstein was wrong (Možeš malo pojasniti??)

-- Why you should not spend too much time in front of your new Digital TV ( Pa pa paranoja)

-- How he came to understand that 15% of the world's population (of all races) have ET ancestry that can be seen in their DNA - and are also resistant to mind control technologies.

And there's more. The above is an incomplete list. We will get this information out as soon as possible, but in the meantime David Wilcock and myself will both be incorporating some of this material in our presentations at the Zurich Conference on 10-12 July.




Čoveče da li iko ko je stariji od trinaest godina može u ovo da veruje???

Nastranu mislim da je cela suština u poslednjoj rečenic: O ovome, i svemu ostalom, govorićemo na našoj prezentaciji, za samo 99,99$. Grow up.
On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
 
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Ostavi coveka na miru,vidis da pise svoj blog.

Danima mu niko ne smeta, a ti sada nasao da ga cimas. :)
 
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Čoveče da li iko ko je stariji od trinaest godina može u ovo da veruje???

Nastranu mislim da je cela suština u poslednjoj rečenic: O ovome, i svemu ostalom, govorićemo na našoj prezentaciji, za samo 99,99$. Grow up.


Project Camelot ce uskoro da objavi intervju koji su radili sa njim. Imaju 3-4 sata video materijala i 12 sati audio materijala snimljeno sa njim. Intervju ce biti objavljen ZA DZABE kao i svi intervjui koje su do sada radili. Takodje oni uvek naprave i transkripte razgovora.

Ustvari , na osnovu ovih kratkih komentara, cak se i meni cini malo previse. Ali ne bi bilo prvi put da se ispostavi da kada se malo bolje pogleda ima smisla. Za to cemo morati da sacekamo da izadje ceo intervju za koji dan. Nije moguce doneti nikakav sud dok se ne pogleda licno sta taj covek ima da kaze. Bice ,kao i svi do sada inervjui dostupan na youtube-u , google video , audio i transkript. (Pretpostavljam da ce youtube biti gotov prvi a ostalo cim stignu da obrade materijal). Ono sto sigurno moze da se kaze je da je wistleblower izasao sa svojim pravim imenom i prezimenom i da iza sebe ima ozbiljnu karijeru vrhunkog naucnika.

http://pearl1.lanl.gov/external/Research/peterson_fellow.html

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Dr. Otis “Pete” Peterson Elected Fellow of the Optical Society of America

Dr. Otis “Pete” Peterson, a staff member in the Chemistry Division at Los Alamos National Laboratory, was elected Fellow of the Optical Society of America in October of 2002.

The Optical Society of America was founded in 1916 to “increase and diffuse the knowledge of optics,” and its 14,000 members are spread around the globe. Of those members, only 7% are Fellows. The ociety produces publications, events, and services intended to advance the science of light by sharing knowledge and innovation.

Peterson, who has been with the Laboratory since 1979, was elected to the society for his discovery in the 1970s of the cw (“continuous wave”) dye laser and his contributions to the development of solid-state tunable lasers. Peterson is a polymathic physicist whose current research interests run the gamut from the development of novel nuclear reactors to x-ray crystallography.

Peterson and a fellow researcher, Sam Tuccio, developed the cw dye laser for Eastman Kodak in late 1969/1970. The development of the dye laser was a significant and surprising breakthrough—a textbook out at the time said that lasers made of common organic dyes dissolved into organic solvents could not be made to operate continuously, and general belief supported that supposition.

The cw dye laser became a workhorse instrument for precision spectroscopy and dominated that field for 20 years. It also served as the foundation for much of the research into the laser production of very short optical pulses, where the pulses became so short in time that electronics could not measure the pulse widths. The laser’s big advantage was that it could be tuned to any visible wavelength (color) by turning knobs and by changing dyes.

Peterson developed the concept and prototype design for the laser and Tuccio supplied the bench-top patience and skill to put it all together into a working whole. Peterson recalled the night when the laser first worked. “Tuccio had a habit of working odd hours. He called me one Sunday night in the spring of 1970 and asked me to come down to the lab—he’d gotten the laser to lase! I went down and walked into a darkened room. Tuccio turned on the dye pump, and dye shot everywhere! He’d opened a cock to release the air from the system and forgotten to close it again. We cleaned up the mess and put everything back together again, and then we could enjoy seeing the first working cw dye laser.”

The second advance the society referenced is Peterson’s contribution to the development of the solid-state tunable laser, which he helped develop for Allied Chemical. This laser was based upon a solid laser rod that exhibited the same wavelength tunability that previously had been the almost exclusive characteristic of the organic dye lasers. The inorganic crystalline rod did not bleach with use and wasn’t susceptible to spilling all over the floor. The rods didn’t have quite the broad tunability of dyes, but in research and practice where a narrow range of wavelengths was desired, they were ideal. Eventually, they saw wide use, including serving as the basis for a large isotope separation program at Los Alamos. Peterson worked as part of a larger team in the development of the solid-state tunable laser, which also received an R&D 100 Award.
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Ovo ocigledno nije covek koji se bavi "glupostima" i "stvarima za malu decu". Cim se pojave nove informacije, bicete obavesteni ovde. Niste ni sumnjali u tako nesto, naravno :)

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Danima mu niko ne smeta, a ti sada nasao da ga cimas. :)


Drago mi je da pratis redovno :)
 
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Lepe pare uzimaju ovi....
vidi ovo....
konferencija od 150$ za 800 mesta....
znaci 120 000 dolara...
u evropi 60 000
vidim i da se icke spremio da uzme koju stotinu hiljada...
nije lose, nije lose....dok ima ovaca bice i vune.
 
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To isto mozes da kazes za bilo koju konferenciju na bilo koju temu. Kada oduzmes troskore organizacije, iznajmljivanja prostora , opreme , placanja smestaja za ucesnike i avionskih karata ... i obzirom na broj ljudi koji ucestvuje i organizuje sve to.... ne izgleda mi da ce bas mnogo zaraditi za sav taj trud. Bruto zarada bilo koje konferencije nije pokazatelj toga da li govornici na konferenciji govore istinu ili ne. Sa druge strane uvek treba uzeti u obzir sledece: SAP (Special Access Program) su dizajnirani tako da svako zna samo ono sto mora da bi radio svoj posao tamo. (Need to know). Takodje za ocekivati je da ce ljudima koji rade na takvim projektima biti servirane dezinfomacije u vezi pojedinih tema od strane pretpostavljenih. Znaci niko ne zna celu sliku niti uz najveci trud ne moze biti siguran da je bas sve sto zna 100% istina. To se odnosi na wistleblowere koji su radili na takvim projektima.

Takodje, barem 70 % onoga o cemu ce govoriti na konferenciji moze da se sazna besplatno sasvim na sajtovima ucesnika. Tako da ko nema para ili ne zeli da ide na konferencije ima dovoljno mogucnosti da sazna sve sto zeli. Besplatno sasvim.

David Wilcock

http://www.divinecosmos.com/
http://www.projectcamelot.org/david_wilcock.html

Brian O'Leary , Author, Scientist, Former Astronaut, International Speaker

http://www.brianoleary.info/
http://www.projectcamelot.org/brian_o_leary.html


Dan Burisch, Marcia McDowell

http://eaglesdisobey.net/
http://www.projectcamelot.org/dan_burisch.html


Bill Ryan

http://www.projectcamelot.org/

David Icke
http://www.davidicke.com/index.php/
http://www.projectcamelot.org/david_icke.html

i tako dalje za sve ostale ucesnike.

 
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To isto mozes da kazes za bilo koju konferenciju na bilo koju temu.


Samo sto neki ne prodaju maglu i ne pricaju svoje dozivljaje iz perioda kada nisu pili lekove.

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Kada oduzmes troskore organizacije, iznajmljivanja prostora , opreme , placanja smestaja za ucesnike i avionskih karata ...


Oduzmi :)
Opet im ostaje sasvim solidna svotica :):)
Pa je tu jos prodaja knjiga, diskova, majica, kacketa, raznih aparatura za odbranu od vanzemaljaca...
 
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Samo sto neki ne prodaju maglu i ne pricaju svoje dozivljaje iz perioda kada nisu pili lekove.


Da li je moguce da su svi ti ljudi normalni i da stvarno pricaju svoja iskustva ?
 
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Normalni su samo u slucaju da svesno lazu.
 
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Normalni su samo u slucaju da svesno lazu.


Dobro. Recimo da uzmemo samo u obzir ljude koji tvrde da imaju neposredna saznanja. Znaci , svi slucajevi tipa video sam nesto sto svetli cudno na nebu , proslo je brzo, nisam mogao/stigao da slikam ne uzimamo u razmatranje uopste. Samo oni koji su direktno ucestvovali u nekom dogadjaju ili u okviru svog posla su imali kontakta sa alienima, ufo-ima, drugim ljudima ili dokumentacijom zbog koje su uvereni da nismo sami u svemiru. I neka za sada,ako se svi slazu, bude postavljeno samo jedno pitanje na koje bi hteli da imamo odgovor : Da li nas posecuju vanzemaljci i vlade raznih zemalja (pre svega USA ) to sve pokusavaju da prikriju ?

Imamo dakle generalno nekoliko mogucih slucajeva:

1) Govore istinu i znaju da govore istinu -> heroji modernog doba koji su istupili da kazu istinu kada mnogi nisu smeli iz straha, ismevanja...
2) Svesno lazu i znaju da lazu -> prevaranti , najverovatnije zbog para , plasiranja dezinformacija u cilju neke druge agende, manja verovatnoca iz obesti ,privlacenja paznje i slicno...
3) Lazu ali misle da govore istinu -> Ljudi sa ozbiljnim zdravstvenim problemima psihicke prirode
4) Govore neistinu ali misle da govore istinu -> ljudi koji su izmanipulisani iz nekog razloga da misle da je ufo fenomen stvaran iz ovog ili onog nepoznatog razloga (ovaj slucaj implicitno nagovestava da osoba ima veoma malo ili ni malo licnog iskustva sa nepoznatim/nerazjasnjenim i pretezno se oslanja na prepricavanja drugih ljudi ili falsifikovane dokumentacije)


Pod 1) je dakle predstavljen slucaj kada je svedocenje wistleblowera autenticno i istina.

A pod 2) , 3) i 4) slucajevi kada je u pitanju neistinito svedocenje iz ovog ili onog razloga.


Jel ima neko nesto da doda/ispravi u ovoj kategorizaciji wistleblowera ? Znaci u pitanju je kategorizacija svedocenja za koja ne moze da se kaze da su nastala iz pogresne interpretacije dogadjaja ili je verovatnoca za takvu misinterpretaciju veoma mala.



 
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1) Govore istinu i znaju da govore istinu -> heroji modernog doba koji su istupili da kazu istinu kada mnogi nisu smeli iz straha, ismevanja...


Definicija za ovo nije to sto si ti napisao nego: "Sizofrenicari i poremeceni ljudi koji vide i cuju ono cega nema. Ukoliko uzimaju terapiju, rezultati tretmana su uglavnom zadovoljavajuci."
 
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icon Re: The Disclosure Project , teorije o kontaktu sa vanzemaljcima03.07.2009. u 09:32 - pre 180 meseci
Jesi ti uporan da popljujes covjeka, ali ti ne ide jer se sve tvoje kontra tvrdnje svode na: sizofrenicari i poremeceni ljudi, terapije, lekovi itd.
I po ovoj tvojoj recenici:
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raznih aparatura za odbranu od vanzemaljaca...

se vidi da ti je svest na nivou filma "Mars napada". Zasto odbranu od vanzemaljaca, zasto mislis da te zele ubiti ili ti pogaziti cvece ispred kuce?

Moj punac, pilot u penziji sa preko 3,500 sati leta, mi je pricao da je nekoliko puta vidjao neobjasnjive letjelice koje su izvodile manevre koji su nemoguci za nasu (zemaljsku) avijaciju. Isto je i na radaru primjecivao objekte koji su se kretali ogromnim brzinama da bi u trenutku stali, ili naglo promjenili smjer. Iz pocetka je prijavljivao kontroli, ali kad je naisao na skepticizam, a cak ga je jednom komandir naribao sa rijecima: sta si vidjeo? jesi li normalan sta pricas takve stvari! i slicno onda je prestao ikome govoriti osim sa kolegama pilotima. Piloti cesce vidjaju takve stvari, tako da zaraza akoznas nekog pilota sa dosta casova leta, slobodno ga pitaj, pa nije doba inkvizicije i nece te niko spaliti na lomaci.

Ja licno, zajedno sa zenom. 24. ovog mjeseca sam bio u Crikvenici na odmoru, i negdje oko 11:30 iznad Krka smo gledali sjajni objekat koji se kretao. Ta svjetlost je pomalo zasljepljivala i zracila je mnogo boja: crvena, plava, zelena, zuta itd. Pocela je lagano usporavati i stala je. Tada se pocela kretati tako da opisuje kruznicu (ne veliku). Trajalo je sve nekih ~5 minuta i tad je lagano pocela opadati intenzitet svjetla da bi se na kraju ugasilo, nestalo. Ja sam ostao jos jedno pola sata na balkonu nadajuci se da ce se ponovo pojaviti, ali na zalost nije.
Stigao sam snimiti aparatom ali zbog neprofesionalne opreme, jer je ipak bila noc, i zbog toga sto nisam aparat stigao fiksirati nisam nista spektakularno snimio osim te svetlosti i jedva vidljivih boja. Okacicu snimak ovdje cim stignem kuci. Sve u svemu jako zanimljiv dozivljaj.
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Jesi ti uporan da popljujes covjeka, ali ti ne ide jer se sve tvoje kontra tvrdnje svode na: sizofrenicari i poremeceni ljudi, terapije, lekovi itd.
I po ovoj tvojoj recenici:

Normalno da su poremeceni kada vide ono sto ne postoji.
Normalno da su lazovi kada kao dokaze imaju jedino "svedoke" i par mutnih slika.

Sem toga, ja nista ni ne tvrdim, ja gledam hocu li videti neki smislen dokaz :)


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Moj punac, pilot u penziji sa preko 3,500 sati leta, mi je pricao da je nekoliko puta vidjao neobjasnjive letjelice


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Ja licno, zajedno sa zenom. 24. ovog mjeseca sam bio u Crikvenici na odmoru, i negdje oko 11:30 iznad Krka smo gledali sjajni objekat koji se kretao.


Na osnovu cega si ti zakljucio da su to vanzemaljci ili da to nije sa ove planete?

 
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icon Re: The Disclosure Project , teorije o kontaktu sa vanzemaljcima03.07.2009. u 09:44 - pre 180 meseci
Cekaj malo. Ti sebe sigurno smatras covekom koji se uvek poziva na razum i ceni nauku i njene metode otkrivanja istine o prirodi.

Zar nisi u stanju da kada o necemu jako malo znas drzis sve opcije u igri ? Zar je toliko tesko pretpostaviti , iskrenosti radi , da postoji i ta mogucnost , da je odovor na gore pomenuto pitanje potvrdan ?
To se zove objektivan pristup problemu. Za razliku od pristupa sa predrasudama nastalih usled neznanja ili povrsnog gledanja na stvari.

Znaci , nije neophodno da bas svaki covek govori 100% istinu i da su svaka njegova pretpostavka ili misljenje tacni da bi se doslo do odgovora na primarno pitanje. Postoji na stotine svedoka i to samo onih sa naucnim , vojnim , policijskim , politickim , biznis ili obavestajnim background-om. Obicni ljudi, sitna boranija, kojih takodje tek ima na hiljade se ne uzimaju u obzir iako i oni imaju dosta toga da kazu.


Da li tvoj komentar u vezi 1) znaci da se slazes sa 2), 3) i 4) i da nema vise da se doda ni jedan moguci slucaj ?
 
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Postoji na stotine svedoka i to samo onih sa naucnim , vojnim , policijskim , politickim , biznis ili obaves........


Ti i dalje nisi shvatio da svedoci ne znace nista, kao ni njihovo zvanje?
 
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Na osnovu cega si ti zakljucio da su to vanzemaljci ili da to nije sa ove planete?


Nigdje explicitno nisam tvrdio da su to vanzemaljci, procitaj ponovo moj post, samo iznosim svoje iskustvo koje ne zelim da potisnem iz svoje glave jer ne zelim pred neobicnim stvarima da okrecem glavu. Dovoljno se zanimam za razne tehnologije pa i za vojnu tako da znam dokle je covjek dosao sa letjelicama i na osnovu toga pridajem ovom mom iskustvu veliku paznju. Volio bi od tebe cuti neko razumno objesnjenje ove pojave koja se meni desila, eto hajde malo da aktiviras vijuge.

Zasto se tebi to cini toliko nevjerovatno kada u prirodi postoje i svakodnevno se odvijaju razne, da kazem, nevjerovatnije stvari pocev od same evolucije, postojanja svjesti kod bica, pa recimo sam mehanizam oplodnje jajne celije do formiranja embrijona. Kakve se sve tu nevjerovatne stvari desavaju, ali se eto desavaju. Mozes li shvatiti vrijeme kao dimenziju postojanja, elektricitet, a da tek ne zalazimo u fiziku na kvantnom nivou itd. itd.

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Kako kome. Tebe hiljade svjedoka ne moze ubjediti, sto i nije pogresno da se razumijemo, ali zar se bar ne zapitas: "cekaj malo, ako ljudi sirom svjeta tvrde da su imali susret neke vrste, pa mozda i postoji nesto". Kako mozes tako olako odbacivati stvari?

I da ponovim sto je neko vec spomenuo: Na kojem to sudu svjedok ne znaci nista?
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