Imamo hit: DotGNU vs Mono sprdnja

Imamo hit: DotGNU vs Mono sprdnja 03.06.2004. u 08:06 · pre 272 meseca #1

http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3361991

Počinje sa..

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The disputes between Free and Open Source date back to their origins.

i pojašnjava da

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"The fundamental difference between the two movements is in their values, their ways of looking at the world. For the Open Source movement, the issue of whether software should be open source is a practical question, not an ethical one. For the Free Software movement, non-free software is a social problem and free software is the solution."

Hehehe, non-free software = social problem :). Nije to još ništa, idemo dalje.

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For example, de Icaza was once a part of the FSF. He was actually the recipient of its second Award for the Advancement of Free Software in 1999..

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But de Icaza said he was kicked out of the FSF for not strictly adhering to its policy of referring to the Linux operating system as GNU/Linux and ensuring that it was always referenced as such in the press or in any interviews that he gave.

..a završava se lopovlukom:

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In de Icaza's opinion, the FSF "hijacked" Mono's own announcement and announced Mono as the GNU Mono project. "Obviously, everyone in the company (Ximian) was upset about that," de Icaza said. "There were some bad sentiments there."

A jok bre, ne prepisuju oni .NET, nego..

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Bello said he doesn't consider DotGNU to be a free implementation of the .NET development framework (as Mono sees itself). Rather, he sees DotGNU as "a competing framework, which aims to provide compatibility with Microsoft's .NET framework."

..spašavaju svet:

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For Bello, the decision to build a framework that is compatible with .NET is based on market reality. "In the industry, companies are using Microsoft stuff. The only way we can make it possible at acceptable cost to migrate to GNU/Linux is by making it possible for them to run their essential apps on both systems," he said. "My goal is to prevent Microsoft from catching the world in their .NET."

E ovo je da čovek crkne od smeha :)

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Re: Imamo hit: DotGNU vs Mono sprdnja 03.06.2004. u 14:09 · pre 272 meseca #2

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degojs:
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But de Icaza said he was kicked out of the FSF for not strictly adhering to its policy of referring to the Linux operating system as GNU/Linux and ensuring that it was always referenced as such in the press or in any interviews that he gave.

Bas me zanima kako RMS izgovara gnu/linux kada drzi neku konferenciju za stampu ili tako nesto....Nije valjda da uvek kaze "guh-new OVER linux" ili "guh-new DIVIDED BY linux" (ili kako god)?
Coveku treba objasniti da je sasvim normalno da se ponekad proizvod naziva po nekoj maloj stvari u proizvodu koji ga razlikuje od drugih. Pa kompanije cesto nazovu npr. neku graficku ili zvunu karticu po jednom cipu iako ne cini samo taj cip tu karticu. Plus sto je za firme nesigurno da koriste Gnu/Linux jer FSF moze to da im zabrani kad god hoce.

[Ovu poruku je menjao srki dana 04.06.2004. u 04:10 GMT]

Re: Imamo hit: DotGNU vs Mono sprdnja 03.06.2004. u 14:38 · pre 272 meseca #3

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srki:Bas me zanima da kako RMS izgovara gnu/linux kada drzi neku konferenciju za stampu ili tako nesto....Nije valjda da uvek kaze "guh-new OVER linux" ili "guh-new DIVIDED BY linux" (ili kako god)?

gnu SLASH linux. :)

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Re: Imamo hit: DotGNU vs Mono sprdnja 03.06.2004. u 14:40 · pre 272 meseca #4

Hehehe, a mislim da bi najbolji štos bio da počnemo da pišemo GNU\Linux umesto GNU/Linux. Ludog Stallmana bi strefila srčka iz momenta...

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Re: Imamo hit: DotGNU vs Mono sprdnja 03.06.2004. u 14:46 · pre 272 meseca #5

A on je lud?

Re: Imamo hit: DotGNU vs Mono sprdnja 03.06.2004. u 14:50 · pre 272 meseca #6

Ko? On? Ma kaaakvi...

http://www.stallman.org/saint.html

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Re: Imamo hit: DotGNU vs Mono sprdnja 03.06.2004. u 14:51 · pre 272 meseca #7

Iskreno receno, RMS je verovatno uradio mnogo vise da se OpenSoucre smatra budalastinom nego iko drugi, jer covek preteruje.

Onda svi misle da su ljudi koji podrzavaja US isti kao RMS

Brkn^2, if you catch my drift

Re: Imamo hit: DotGNU vs Mono sprdnja 03.06.2004. u 15:07 · pre 272 meseca #8

E bas ste me nasmejali :)
I kakav je ovo nacin da se na advocacy svi slazemo? Gde je tOwk?

Re: Imamo hit: DotGNU vs Mono sprdnja 03.06.2004. u 15:19 · pre 272 meseca #9

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Dragi Tata:Ko? On? Ma kaaakvi...

http://www.stallman.org/saint.html

A tek ovo:
http://www.gnu.org/music/free-software-song.au

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Dragi Tata:Hehehe, a mislim da bi najbolji štos bio da počnemo da pišemo GNU\Linux umesto GNU/Linux. Ludog Stallmana bi strefila srčka iz momenta...

Ma ne, mozemo da ga zovemo gnu slashed by linux, hehe :)))
Sta bi na to rekao?

Re: Imamo hit: DotGNU vs Mono sprdnja 03.06.2004. u 15:42 · pre 272 meseca #10

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McKracken:Iskreno receno, RMS je verovatno uradio mnogo vise da se OpenSoucre smatra budalastinom nego iko drugi, jer covek preteruje.

Potpuno si u pravu. Sada kada se pomene OpenSource ljudi obicno pomisle na Gnu i GPL software a ne znaju da je BSD postojao pre toga i da je on isto OpenSource a takodje to je zaista Free software za razliku od GNU-a. Ali dobro, razumem ja RMS-a, ipak je to marketing pa zato za Gnu software kaze da je free iako to nije free.

Re: Imamo hit: DotGNU vs Mono sprdnja 04.06.2004. u 00:31 · pre 272 meseca #11

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Dragi Tata:Ko? On? Ma kaaakvi...

http://www.stallman.org/saint.html

Možda ekcentrik - ali nikako lud ;-)

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Re: Imamo hit: DotGNU vs Mono sprdnja 04.06.2004. u 01:22 · pre 272 meseca #12

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degojs:
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But de Icaza said he was kicked out of the FSF for not strictly adhering to its policy of referring to the Linux operating system as GNU/Linux and ensuring that it was always referenced as such in the press or in any interviews that he gave.

Ha, ha, pogledajte ovo

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Doesn't the GNU project support an individual's free speech rights to call the system by any name that individual chooses?
Yes, indeed, we believe you have a free speech right to call the operating system by any name you wish. We ask that people call it GNU/Linux as a matter of doing justice to the GNU project, to promote the values of freedom that GNU stands for, and to inform others that those values of freedom brought the system into existence.

http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html

Re: Imamo hit: DotGNU vs Mono sprdnja 04.06.2004. u 10:24 · pre 272 meseca #13

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We ask that people call it GNU/Linux as a matter of doing justice to the GNU project, to promote the values of freedom that GNU stands for, and to inform others that those values of freedom brought the system into existence.

Tako je - imas prava na "slobodu" dok se sloboda ne krsi sa proletar... pardon, slobodarskim pokretom "GNU" - u slucaju krsenja sa ideologijom, moze svasta da se desi.

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Re: Imamo hit: DotGNU vs Mono sprdnja 04.06.2004. u 14:03 · pre 272 meseca #14

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L I L I T:Možda ekcentrik - ali nikako lud ;-)

A linija je tako tanka...

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Re: Imamo hit: DotGNU vs Mono sprdnja 08.06.2004. u 21:31 · pre 272 meseca #15

RMS je lud koliko i Mahatma Gandi (Da ne kazem Che, zvucalo bi isuvise kao da pokusavam da oteram citavu pricu ulevo). Sloboda je ozbiljna stvar, makar to bila i sloboda softvera. Ne verujem da Microsoft zeli da zavlada svetom uz pomoc tajnog koda umetnutog u operativni sistem, ali brate, ako je neko gazio po lesevima da bi zaradio vise para nego sto moze da potrosi za tri(deset) zivota (sto je po meni ludje od mnogih drugih stvari) ne bih potrosio mnogo vremena verujuci njegovom proizvodu

P.S. Ovo XP je zbog toga sto se logujem iz RC-a, kuci dakako koristim GNU/Linux

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Re: Imamo hit: DotGNU vs Mono sprdnja 08.06.2004. u 22:00 · pre 272 meseca #16

Pa ako smo i kod Gandija, moglo bi se i o njemu reći par interesantnih stvari: npr otvorena podrška Hitleru za vreme II sv rata. A "slobodara" kao što je RMS neka nas Bog čuva - videli smo ih na delu.

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Re: Imamo hit: DotGNU vs Mono sprdnja 08.06.2004. u 23:34 · pre 272 meseca #17

Ma nemoj tako Tatko, oni su demokrate. Oni dopustaju slobodu misljenja i mozes slobodno linux da zoves gnu/linux. A evo pozivaju na bojkot LinuxToday-a jer je prihvatio da ima na sajtu neke reklame od Microsofta. Prava demokratija. Isto tako su jednom ranije pozivali na bojkot Linux Magazina jer je prihvatio reklame od MS-a.

Re: Imamo hit: DotGNU vs Mono sprdnja 09.06.2004. u 08:20 · pre 272 meseca #18

Sacuvaj me Boze ekstremista... Svih sorti...

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Re: Imamo hit: DotGNU vs Mono sprdnja 25.06.2004. u 21:20 · pre 272 meseca #19

Apropo

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Doesn't the GNU project support an individual's free speech rights to call the system by any name that individual chooses?

Yes, indeed, we believe you have a free speech right to call the operating system by any name you wish. We ask that people call it GNU/Linux as a matter of doing justice to the GNU project, to promote the values of freedom that GNU stands for, and to inform others that those values of freedom brought the system into existence.

Hm, ima smisla. Ako su ljudi odradili veliki deo posla, što im se to ne bi i priznalo?

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Re: Imamo hit: DotGNU vs Mono sprdnja 26.06.2004. u 03:13 · pre 272 meseca #20

Pa naravno, ali treba pustiti da te drugi hvale a ne ti da nameces drugima da te hvale. A i poenta je u tome sto kao dopustaju da zoves sistem kako hoces ali ako ne zoves po njihovom dobijes otkaz. Nemas slobodu govora a imas "slobodan" softver. U stvari tu free nije od slobodan nego od besplatan.

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