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icon Ugovor o reklamiranju/prodaji ?29.01.2004. u 11:30 - pre 218 meseci
Vlasnik sam jednog sajta. Jedna softwerska kuca mi nudi prodaju svog proizvoda preko mojih stranica i poslali su mi ugovor. Placali bi mi procenat od prodaje. Firma je ozbiljna tako da tu nema problema. Jedino ne razumem dobro jednu recenicu ugovora:
Assignment: Affiliate cannot assign this Agreement or any rights, duties or obligations
Da li mi neko moze protumaciti/prevesti navedenu recenicu.
U tom ugovoru ja sam Affiliate.
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icon Re: Ugovor o reklamiranju/prodaji ?29.01.2004. u 11:59 - pre 218 meseci
Prosto receno, ne mozes dalje da ugovaras takav slican deal sa drugim licima - izricito ti zabranjuju dalje mesetarenje s tim.


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icon Re: Ugovor o reklamiranju/prodaji ?29.01.2004. u 12:02 - pre 218 meseci
Ok, sada sam razumeo.
A kada bih ti poslao kompletan ugovor, da ga samo onako nabrzak pogledas , da nema neka "začkoljica". (dve stranice)Trazim mnogo ?
 
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icon Re: Ugovor o reklamiranju/prodaji ?29.01.2004. u 13:11 - pre 218 meseci
Pošalji ga ovde javno da ga ostali vide... ili makar delove koji su bitni.
 
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icon Re: Ugovor o reklamiranju/prodaji ?29.01.2004. u 13:15 - pre 218 meseci
Slobodno posalji i ovde, osim ako nema nekih tajnih detalja. Mozes ga i poslati na mail.
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icon Re: Ugovor o reklamiranju/prodaji ?29.01.2004. u 13:34 - pre 218 meseci
Ovo je ugovor.
Da li me ovakav ugovor obavezuje na nesto posebno.
Hvala na pomoći.


This License Agreement (this "Agreement") is made effective upon acceptance of this agreement between you, the Affiliate, and Digital River, Inc. ("REGNOW"), P.O. Box 1816, Issaquah, WA 98027. The parties agree as follows:

RECITALS: Distributor pursues a line of business, in addition to other businesses, whereby it purchases and resells computer software, documentation and all updates, revisions and enhancements hereto ("Products") made by or for the authors and owners thereof ("Owners"), and which Owners "shareware" is listed on ___________________ Web site ("Affiliate"). Distributor and Affiliate have agreed that Distributor shall act as the "reseller" of such Products from the Site. Distributor and Affiliate wish to confirm their agreement with respect to such marketing activities by Distributor to the End Users that the parties anticipate will by virtue of their utilization of the Site be the customers and assignees of Distributor for the Products.

NOW THEREFOR, for good and valuable consideration, the receipt and sufficiency of which is hereby acknowledged, and in consideration of their mutual understanding, the parties agree:

1. Non-Exclusive Use: This is a non-exclusive agreement between Affiliate and Distributor.

2. Term: The term of this Agreement shall commence as of the day hereof and shall terminate three hundred sixty five (365) days thereafter. This Agreement shall automatically renew for additional one-year periods. Either party for any reason may instigate termination. If Affiliate chooses to terminate this contract, Distributor must receive a signed termination letter no less than 30 (thirty) days prior to termination date either hand delivered or sent via FAX or E-Mail, followed by certified mail, return receipt requested, to the addresses indicated in the preamble hereof. Distributor may terminate this contract without notice if:



a. If Affiliate becomes bankrupt or insolvent, or makes an assignment for the benefit of its creditors;
b. Affiliate fails to remedy any breach of duty or performance called for under this Agreement within ten days following notice from Distributor, said 10 day period commencing upon notification from Distributor to Owner via electronic transmission or facsimile transmission with following "hard copy" delivery of notice as described above.
c. Distributor has a reasonable reason to believe that Affiliate is involved in fraudulent activity.
d. Distributor finds that Affiliate's site content contains and promotes information and product related to Spam, possible Schemes, or promotes other products and services that Distributor deems as inappropriate.
e. Distributor following up on Spam complaints find that Affiliate sends unsolicited email as described in clause 4, Affiliate Duties.

3. Distributor's Duties: Distributor shall provide commerce server, Internet connectivity and hardware/software installation, configuration and maintenance, domain registration, and all customization of the server software and scripts. Distributor shall utilize a security system, which enables users to purchase Product through secure means. Distributor shall allow sales of Product to be effected through the use of means as Distributor in its sole discretion utilizes, and may add or change from time to time. Distributor shall be responsible for collection from the End Users and for payment to Owners and Affiliate, and shall account for all transactions on no less than a monthly basis. Distributor will provide a report mechanism to Affiliate that shows sales so that Affiliate can track commissions owed under this agreement. Payment will be made to Affiliate for all Products sold from the Site in a given reporting period no later than the fifteenth (15) day of the following reporting period when the account balance is at or over . Reporting period's start and end on the 15th of every month. Distributor shall be responsible for interfacing with Owners to set up delivery mechanisms to End Users. It is anticipated that the deliver mechanism shall be via electronic mail and forms as much as possible. Distributor shall be responsible for handling all charge back and customer inquires about charges as arise from Product sales to End Users. Distributor shall be responsible to set up a software deliver mechanism between each Owner and End User, it being understood that Distributor is a purchaser and reseller of Products. Distributor agrees to indemnify Affiliate for any claims, liabilities, losses or expenses (including attorney's fees) asserted against or incurred by Affiliate as a result of any Owner, any purchaser of Products, or any users of any Products purchased making any claim associated with the resale or potential resale of Products.

4. Affiliate Duties: Affiliate is responsible for promoting the sales mechanism for Owners via various methods including but not limited to, notices, banners, links, and advertisements on the Site. Methods used for promotion should be presented in a pleasing manner and encourage the user to purchase Products on the Site. Notwithstanding the foregoing, Affiliate retains the exclusive right to design and place notices, banners, and advertisements on the Site. Affiliate shall require Distributor to approve the content of any advertisements. Affiliate agrees to hold Distributor harmless from any claims, losses, liabilities, and expenses (including attorney's fees) incurred by or asserted against Site Owner due to the actual or alleged inaccuracy of the content of any of the approved advertisements. Affiliate reserves the right to change the domain name of the Site at any time. Affiliate shall attempt to keep the Site operational, but Affiliate does not warrant that the Site will be operational at all times. Affiliate shall not at any time engage in, or use Distributor's systems to engage in, Net abuse, including, but not limited to, activities such as using a non-existent return e-mail address on a commercial solicitation, spamming (sending unsolicited advertising to numerous email addresses or newsgroups), trolling (posting outrageous messages to generate numerous responses), mail bombing (sending multiple messages without significant new content to the same user), subscribing someone else to a mailing list without that person's permission, cross-posting articles to an excessive number of newsgroups, attempting without authorization to enter into a secured computer system, or purposefully instigating computer viruses.
a. Solicited email is only acceptable if the terms and conditions of RegNow's privacy policy are upheld. Any mass email that is sent out must include a link to the author's homepage and a statement that Affiliate is not the Owner of the product. If the product has a demonstration version, a link to the demonstration version must be included in the email.
b. Affiliate order page URL will not be used in conjunction with other web sites. The affiliate order page URL is only for promotion of product from web sites that Affiliate owns.
c. Solicitation requests must be approved by Owner by at least 30 days prior to any promotional mailing.

5. Compensation: For purposes of this Agreement, Net Proceeds shall mean funds actually received by Distributor for Product sales, less chargebacks and returns, payments to Distributor, and payments to Owner. Affiliate will be compensated as follows: (a) for each sale that is made from a link on the Site, Affiliate shall receive some percentage of the total sale, which varies based up on the Product and or Owner at any given point in time; or (b) if no percentage has been determined by Product and or Owner at the point of sale, Distributor shall determine the percentage to be received by Affiliate. Distributor shall remit payment at the upcoming billing cycle when the account balance for the previous month's sales equals or exceeds . Distributor may hold a payment to perform an internal audit on the account. When this occurs, Affiliate will be informed of the future payment cycle that the payment remittance will occur. Distributor will remit payment by direct deposit for 2 payment (Distributor encourages direct deposit payment), but will remit payment by check for 4 payment.

6. Fees: Distributor reserves the right to charge in part or entirely for services provided at any time.

7. End User Data. Affiliate does not own End User Data thus Affiliate will not share with any other third party the End User Data.

8. Confidentiality. If, by virtue of this Agreement, Affiliate receives any information deemed proprietary or confidential by Distributor, you shall hold Distributor's Confidential Information in confidence and not disclose it or use it. Affiliate agrees to take reasonable steps to use at least the same degree of care that Affiliate would use to protect Affiliate's Confidential Information, but no less than reasonable care to protect Distributor's Confidential Information to ensure that it is not disclosed or used in violation of this Agreement.

9. Relationship of Parties: Distributor's right as seller of Product on the Site does not constitute the creation of an agency, partnership, or employment relationship between Distributor and Affiliate. Distributor and Affiliate each have independent business ventures separate and apart form the relationship described hereby. No authority is given to one party by the other hereby to contract or enter into any business dealings with any third party.

10. Governing Law: This Agreement shall be construed and enforced under the laws of the State of Washington.

11. Entire Agreement: This Agreement contains the entire understanding of the parties hereto with respect to its subject matter.

12. Notice: All notices and other communications required or permitted hereunder shall be deemed to have been duly give if hand delivered or sent via FAX or e-mail followed by certified mail, return receipt requested, addressed as follows or at such other address as either party hereto shall designate to the other party in writing:
(A) To Distributor: RegNow, a Service of Digital River, Inc
PO Box 1816
Issaquah, WA 98027
Fax: 425-392-0223
Email: contract.com

(B) To Site: ___________________
___________________
___________________
Phone:_____________
Fax: _______________
Email: _____________

13. Assignment: Affiliate cannot assign this Agreement or any rights, duties or obligations.
14. Binding Effect and Amendment: This Agreement supersedes all prior understanding or communications, written or oral, between the parties with respect to the subject matter hereof. This Agreement may be amended only in writing executed by the authorized representatives of both parties.
 
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icon Re: Ugovor o reklamiranju/prodaji ?29.01.2004. u 14:51 - pre 218 meseci
Zdravo,

Nemoj da potpisujes jos uvijek. Ako ti nije hitno, ima nekih caka na koje bi trebao da obratis paznju - ali trenutno nemam vremena da ih obradim.

Najvjerovatnije da ces dobiti odgovor sutra.

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icon Re: Ugovor o reklamiranju/prodaji ?29.01.2004. u 15:02 - pre 218 meseci
Hvala puno, čekam odgovor.
 
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icon Re: Ugovor o reklamiranju/prodaji ?29.01.2004. u 16:26 - pre 218 meseci
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13. Assignment: Affiliate cannot assign this Agreement or any rights, duties or obligations.


Meni se čini da ovo znači samo da on ne može preneti dotični ugovor niti bilo koja prava, dužnosti i obaveze iz njega na treća lica, a ne da ne sme da potpisuje druge ugovore te vrste.
 
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icon Re: Ugovor o reklamiranju/prodaji ?29.01.2004. u 16:29 - pre 218 meseci
Hehehe, evo šta se dešava kad dajemo engleska imena forumima.

Prijatelju, reč "Advocacy" znači pljuvačina, a ne pravni saveti (advokatisanje).
 
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icon Re: Ugovor o reklamiranju/prodaji ?29.01.2004. u 16:40 - pre 218 meseci
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Dragi Tata:
Prijatelju, reč "Advocacy" znači pljuvačina, a ne pravni saveti (advokatisanje).

Ja sam našao ovo objašnjenje:
.Advocacy= The act of arguing in favor of something,such as a cause, idea , or policy.
Pošto su mi neki već ponudili pomoć a i sam administrator mi se javio, smatrao sam da nisam baš promašio forum.

[Ovu poruku je menjao justnet dana 29.01.2004. u 18:48 GMT]
 
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icon Re: Ugovor o reklamiranju/prodaji ?29.01.2004. u 16:40 - pre 218 meseci
advocacy advokatisanje
advocacy advokatura
advocacy pravobranilaštvo
advocacy širenje
advocacy odbrana
advocacy branjenje
advocacy branilaštvo
advocacy zalaganje
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Marko.
 
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icon Re: Ugovor o reklamiranju/prodaji ?29.01.2004. u 16:41 - pre 218 meseci
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Safet Beriša:
Meni se čini da ovo znači samo da on ne može preneti dotični ugovor niti bilo koja prava, dužnosti i obaveze iz njega na treća lica, a ne da ne sme da potpisuje druge ugovore te vrste.


To je upravo ono sto sam ja napisao - zabranjeno mu je da dalje diluje trecim licima taj ugovor, cime moze steci neki profit prostim posrednistvom..

;) Nigde nije napisano niti je iko rekao da ne sme da potpisuje druge ugovore te vrste.
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icon Re: Ugovor o reklamiranju/prodaji ?29.01.2004. u 17:07 - pre 218 meseci
U tom slučaju se izvinjavam.

Mene je "ne mozes dalje da ugovaras takav slican deal sa drugim licima" navelo da pomislim da si mislio na druge ugovore te vrste a ne na taj specifični ugovor.

No, sad je sve jasno.
 
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icon Re: Ugovor o reklamiranju/prodaji ?29.01.2004. u 17:52 - pre 218 meseci
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markom:
advocacy advokatisanje
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Marko.


OK, u pravu si, postoji i to značenje. Međutim, da li je to svrha ovog foruma? U opisu foruma piše nešto kao ovo vs ono, a ne pružanje pravnih saveta.
 
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icon Re: Ugovor o reklamiranju/prodaji ?29.01.2004. u 18:17 - pre 218 meseci
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Mene je "ne mozes dalje da ugovaras takav slican deal sa drugim licima" navelo da pomislim da si mislio na druge ugovore te vrste a ne na taj specifični ugovor.


Ne, to ne mogu da napisu a i ako napisu to je pravno nistavno jer se na pocetku ugovor definise kao non-exclusive.

DigiCortex (ex. SpikeFun) - Cortical Neural Network Simulator:
http://www.digicortex.net/node/1 Videos: http://www.digicortex.net/node/17 Gallery: http://www.digicortex.net/node/25
PowerMonkey - Redyce CPU Power Waste and gain performance! - https://github.com/psyq321/PowerMonkey
 
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icon Re: Ugovor o reklamiranju/prodaji ?29.01.2004. u 23:07 - pre 218 meseci
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Safet Beriša:
U tom slučaju se izvinjavam.


Nema potrebe, my bad - izrazio sam se dvosmisleno. Hteo sam reci da ne mozes da dalje preprodajes taj affiliate ugovor trecim licima.

No, sad je sve razjasnjeno
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icon Re: Ugovor o reklamiranju/prodaji ?31.01.2004. u 05:51 - pre 218 meseci
Zdravo justnet,

Hvala na strpljenju. Tvoje pitanje je bilo 'Da li me ovakav ugovor obavezuje na nesto posebno.', a ja bih htjela da te upitam - kakve stvari mislis da su 'posebne'?
Moje gledanje na tu 'posebnost' je da donekle kriticki isjeckam tvoj ugovor na djelice koje mogu da uticu na tvoju buducu situaciju (ukljucujuci i finansijsku), a kojih ti mozda nisi trenutno svjesan. Ovdje bih htjela da ukljucim i potencijalne probleme (i nacine na koje ce ti problemi biti rjeseni), da imas sto manje glavobolja u buducnosti.

npr. Ti na pocetku kazes da ne mislis da ces imati problema sto se tice DigiRiver, jer je to 'velika kompanija'. Meni se ovdje ukljucuje alarm, jer antene detektuju neosnovane pretpostavke. Ne znam u kakvoj si situaciji justnet, ali da li ti mozes da priustis gubitke (i do koje mjere), npr. finansijke…psihicke…bla blaaa blaaa? Ovo te pitam, jer mislim da bi trebao da sebe OGRANICIS, putem tog ugovora. DR ugovor radi super za njih same, ali ako ima dvoje ljudi, i ako si ti taj neko drugi...pa zar nije logicno da hoces da stavis do znanja toj prvoj osobi (DR), specifikacije koje su TEBI bitne?

Kao prvo, meni je ugovor previse GENERALAN, i kao takav, oni mogu da ubace razne varijacije, i da te izludjuju do boli. Jel ti volis da te bilo ko (ukljucujuci i DR) izludjuje do boli? :) Ako ne volis da te neko izludjuje do boli u poslovanju, posto si samo cuo jednu stranu price, procitaj i necija druga razmisljanja, pa mi reci da li su ti vazna. Takodje, slobodan si da i sam uradis jedan kratak net-search. :)

Specificno za DR:
http://www.fullerbecker.com/thoughts_and_words/digitalriver.html

Iskustvo koje je neko imao sa razlicitim ‘Payment processors’ (nema DR):
http://www.buena.com/articles/11-2000.html

I ako poslije citanja, i svojih razmisljanja jos uvijek budes zainteresovan za moju disekciju ugovora, javi se na forum. Hvala na razumijevanju. :)


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icon Re: Ugovor o reklamiranju/prodaji ?03.02.2004. u 11:32 - pre 218 meseci
Hvala na odgovoru Miss Piggy. Ako mi vreme dozvoli danas ću da pogledam navedene linkove.
Samo da razjasnim jednu moju rečenicu. Kada sam rekao "firma je pouzdana" mislio sam na softversku kuću koja mi nudi aranžman prodaje, ne na DigitalRiver. Digital River se pojavljuje zato što dotična software house koristi usluge DR-a za prodaju svojih proizvoda.
Ja sam naravno još u dilemi, da li mi eventualno prihvatanje uslova ugovora i objavljivanje stranice sa njihovim proizodima može doneti neki prihod.
Nisam siguran da bih ja na bilo koji način mogao da ponudim neki drugi ugovor, pošto se radi o jednostavnom "štikliraj [ ]" ako prihvatas uslove.
Ono što me interesuje najviše u ovom trenutku je da li neko, DR ili sotware house, na osnovu ponudjenog ugovora, može od mene da traži neku nadoknadu.
Diskusija se lepo razvila , nadam se da će pomoći i drugima.
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icon Re: Ugovor o reklamiranju/prodaji ?03.02.2004. u 12:19 - pre 218 meseci
Zdravo justnet,

Posto si jos jedanput rekao da te najvise zanima da li ces biti ostecen u ovom slucaju - odlucila sam da ne pravim detaljnu analizu...ALI ti skrecem paznju da onda nisu samo dvije stranke ukljucene - nego TRI:
-ti
-Digital River
-softverska kompanija

Tebi znaci treba da prvo vidis da li se slazes sa ugovorom koji ti oni nude - tj. da ces se slagati sa svim pravilima Digital River-a; ali budi svjesan da su oni (softverska kompanija) TAKODJE napravili ugovor sa Digital River, koji je tkz. 'CORPORATE' ugovor.

Sta ovdje u stvari nedostaje je JOS JEDAN ugovor: izmedju TEBE i SOFTVERSKE KOMPANIJE. Znaci: ukupno DVA ugovora su ti potrebna. Ako se neko ne slaze - zamoljeni ste da ostavite misljenje (po mogucnosti konstruktivne prijedloge).

Mislim da je vazno da znas sa kim ulazis u posao, i da budes upoznat sa svim aspektima relevantnim za tebe, pa ti predlazem da takodje odes do advokata (nakon svih nasih prijedloga i misljenja), da mu platis odredjenu sumu (mozes da biras kojeg ces), i da imas veci osjecaj sigurnosti da te nece neko zeznuti.

Takodje, posto ne znam nista o materijalu koji nudis za prodaju (a pretpostavljam da je softver? :) ) - gledaj da patentiras svoj IP; jer ako se desi da se doticna software kompanija docepa materijala, a nista nisi osigurao - oni lako mogu da maznu stvari sebi - a korisnici (buduce musterije) jos vise... znaci... nemoj da budes mucak - bar mozes da uradis neko toga. :)

Naravno, ti mozes da provjeris prvi ugovor, i potpises ga - ali takodje - mozes da predlozis da se napravi POSEBAN ugovor za tebe i za kompaniju. :) tj. DRUGI ugovor.

Jos jedanput, mislim da je bitno da pitas advokata da ti pregleda ugovor na kraju svega ovog. To je njihova struka, i ta suma koju platis ce ti omoguciti da napravis 348948948238390 puta toliko, jer ce te osloboditi nepotrebnog smaranja u buducnosti i moci ces da se koncentrises na stvari koji tebi znace.

Na kraju krajeva, ne ides kod obucara da pitas za veknu hljeba...a kad je bio posljednji put da si pitao bankara da ocijeni kvalitet merino vune? Mislim da znas na sta mislim. :)


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