Izasao Ubuntu 10.04 Final, LTS izdanje, podrska do 2013. godine

Challenger: @ oni koji imaju nvidia-u:
Da li vam je splash (pri boot-u, restart-u i sl.) u nekoj znj rezoluciji? Dakle, sve ok, 2D, 3D, compiz, samo splash odvratan

p.s. Mislim na proprietary driver-e

component: I meni je Plymouth jako ružan. Niska rezolucija malo boja. Kao da je u safe modu :(

[16:09] <sabdfl> one of the really strong values we have is that two users of ubuntu should, by default, either be having the same experience, or be expert enough to understand why they are not
[16:10] <sabdfl> which is why we stick to *one* default browser
[16:10] <sabdfl> and *one* default mail client
[16:10] <sabdfl> that way, when two people who have out-of-the-box-vanilla ubuntu are talking to one another
[16:10] <sabdfl> they can say "i can't find my bookmark" and "oh, you find it there"
[16:10] <sabdfl> they can help each other, just talking about "the browser"
[16:10] <sabdfl> that has been very useful to help the community grow past experts, into a more consumer audience
[16:11] <sabdfl> if you are an expert, of course there is software centre, aptitude / synaptic, and PPA's
[16:11] <sabdfl> there's a whole world out there :-)

16:14] <jcastro> QUESTION: Why are the window controls on the left?
[16:14] <sabdfl> to align with the future shape of the desktop

<rrnwexec> randall in Vancouver asks: What are your thoughts on the "Linux" brand and the effect it has on the Ubuntu brand. Is it useful to try to bind the two?
[16:19] <sabdfl> linux is an awesome brand - it says powerful, freedom, evolving, energised, capable, cross-platform
[16:20] <sabdfl> for anybody who needs to hear those messages, it's the best
[16:20] <sabdfl> ubuntu says freedom, precision, reliability, collaboration
[16:20] <sabdfl> we don't say "ubuntu linux" because that would scope the message to the subset of both groups
[16:20] <sabdfl> but linux is at the heart of what we do, i don't think anybody is under any illusions about that
[16:21] <sabdfl> it grates a little when people say "ubuntu is linux", because of course the linux ecosystem is much bigger than just ubuntu
[16:21] <sabdfl> and everybody should try more of 'em: fedora, gentoo, arch, go wild
[16:21] <sabdfl> there's something for everyone

[16:27] <akgraner> <txwikinger> QUESTION: Will Kubuntu/KDE have windicators, or will that be a Gnome only feature?
[16:27] <sabdfl> i hope they do
[16:27] <sabdfl> it will be straightforward to add to KWin if the maintainers see fit
[16:27] <sabdfl> and we'd likely add it in Kubuntu
[16:27] <sabdfl> so a Gnome app running on Kubuntu feels at home
[16:28] <sabdfl> of course, then the menu would be rendered *properly*,with Qt :-)
[16:28] <sabdfl> in my blog, i said that the work was enabled by CSD, which is incorrect
[16:28] <sabdfl> it was inspired by CSD - it was thinking about CSD that inspired the idea to give that space back to the applications
[16:28] <sabdfl> the actual implementation can be done via CSD or via the window manager
[16:29] <sabdfl> and in fact, we *need* to express the windicators on the d-bus, to support the global menu case
[16:29] <sabdfl> which is what the window managers could tap into

QUESTION: What are your opinions on Bug 527458 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-application/+bug/527458 ) and the decision to deprecate tooltips from the panel indicators? Will tooltips come back in Maverick?
[16:37] <sabdfl> i've commented on the bug, for anyone who wants to read the thread there
[16:37] <sabdfl> in short, i think tooltips are most often a disaster
[16:38] <sabdfl> because there is a slot there, people put stuff in it
[16:38] <sabdfl> even if they don't have to
[16:38] <sabdfl> so we end up with a whole lot of really crap and useless tooltips that just clutter up the interface
[16:38] <sabdfl> and because they have tooltips, they don't do the extra work to think through the most important info to convey in the underlying asset
[16:38] <sabdfl> because hey, you can just stuff all the detail in a tooltip!
[16:39] <sabdfl> i've done it myself, in the past
[16:39] <sabdfl> i'm ashamed
[16:39] <sabdfl> but i'm cured
[16:39] <sabdfl> and so no, i don't think the tooltips will come back
[16:39] <sabdfl> but it's a 90% certainty for me, perhaps someone will convince me otherwise
[16:39] <sabdfl> but they'd have to convince a few other people, who might convince me :-)
[16:39] <sabdfl> next!