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icon Ko je sledeci?27.06.2002. u 03:49 - pre 264 meseci
Svedoci smo ere neverovatnih skandala u USA telekomu. I ne samo u telekomu. Racunovodstveni skandali se sire po firmama brzinom sumskog pozara. Vodeca uloga u "namestanju knjiga" ubedljivo, bez premca, pripada firmi po imenu Artur Andersen. Juce, poslednja (zasada) zrtva "agresivnog racunovodstva" je WorldCom (WCOM).

Pitanje koje se namece: koja je sledeca karika u lancu smrti: Enron - Global Crossing - WorldCom - ?

Odgovor (po meni) jednostavan: Qwest (Q). Vrlo slican scenario kao i lanac zvezda padalica: Enron - Global Crossing - WorldCom. Visoki dugovi, "agresivan" accounting, a sto je najvaznije, do pre mesec dana Qwest-ove knjige niko drugi nije nadgledao i auditovao nego bas ISTI Artur Andersen (pre mesec dana Qwest je "otpustio" Andersena i postavio nove auditore: KPGM - prase se uoci Bozica ne kolje)!

Vreme ce pokazati da li je ova pretpostavka dobra. Uostalom, necemo bas dugo cekati.

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icon Re: Ko je sledeci?27.06.2002. u 10:10 - pre 264 meseci
Da - svuda se sushka da je QWest "slececi" na listi za odstrel.

Problem je mnogo siri - cenim da su svi veliki igraci vodili booking na ovaj nacin, i da je sada ugrozena cela USA ekonomija (dolar pada #@&#@() , sta ce biti - bice :-)

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icon Re: Ko je sledeci?27.06.2002. u 11:22 - pre 264 meseci
Pa i red bi bio da u narednih par godina ujedinjena Evropa preuzme primat, sve lepo teče, uvedena je jedinstvena valuta, otvaraju se granice,.. mada moglo bi to i brže da ide, kad je već jasno da se stvara država slična USA ali na starom kontinentu.
 
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icon Re: Ko je sledeci?27.06.2002. u 18:03 - pre 264 meseci
Da, Qwest jeste sledeci: u sredu su akcije Qwesta pale 38%, posto je SEC poceo da se zanimava njihovom finansijama. Idemo dalje...
 
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icon Re: Ko je sledeci?28.06.2002. u 00:34 - pre 264 meseci
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Da, Qwest jeste sledeci: u sredu su akcije Qwesta pale 38%, posto je SEC poceo da se zanimava njihovom finansijama. Idemo dalje...


Samo polako. Nisam bas siguran da smo u pravu. Juce je deonica Qwesta bila $1.60 US, danas je poslednja kupovina (reference - Island) bila $2.76 US. Qwest se za poslednja 30 sata dosta povratio od one jucerasnje katastrofe u pocetnim casovima trading-a.

Kandidati za pucanje: LUcent (ukupan dug do 2025 je oko $40 milijardi US), NorTel (ukupan dug, ako se ne varam oko $15 milijardi US), i, svakako, Qwest (koji je "progutao" jednog od Baby Bell-ova, nakon onog famoznog razbijanja AT&T 1984 godina na Ma Bell i 7 Baby Bell-ova - US West) sa $26 milijardi US duga!

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icon Re: Ko je sledeci?11.07.2002. u 06:14 - pre 264 meseci
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Da, Qwest jeste sledeci: u sredu su akcije Qwesta pale 38%, posto je SEC poceo da se zanimava njihovom finansijama. Idemo dalje...


Pa, izgleda da ste debelo u pravu! O pokojniku (Qwestu) sve najbolje!

U.S. Attorney Opens Criminal Probe of Qwest Communications

DENVER -- The U.S. Attorney's office in Denver has begun a criminal investigation of Qwest Communications International Inc. , the beleaguered local and long-distance operator said Wednesday.

Further details weren't available. In a brief statement, Qwest said the attorney's office didn't disclose the subject matter of the investigation. The company has been under a cloud of suspicion about the way it has booked revenue.

Qwest said it was notified of the criminal probe late Tuesday and that it will cooperate with authorities.

The news sent shares of Qwest down 97 cents, or 37.31%, to $1.63 at AH trading on the New York Stock Exchange.

The Wall Street Journal, citing people close to the situation, reported last week that Qwest was the focus of a criminal probe. At the time, Qwest said it was unaware of any Justice Department investigation.

"We have no reason to believe that we are the subject of any investigation by the Department of Justice," Drake S. Tempest, Qwest general counsel, said last week. "It is outrageous that we would learn about an investigation in this way."

The Securities and Exchange Commission already is investigating Qwest's accounting practices, particularly how it booked revenue in 2000 and 2001.

The company was one of the most aggressive users of "swap" transactions -- selling long-term capacity on its fiber network to another carrier, buying the same amount of fiber on another carrier's network and then booking the contract as revenue.

The practice boosted Qwest's revenue by more than $1 billion in 2001, according to filings with the SEC.

The SEC is investigating whether Qwest may have violated accounting rules by booking the swap deals all at once instead of over a period of years that reflected the life of the contract.

The Journal reported Monday that Qwest denied any wrongdoing regarding its accounting practices and defended the one-time capacity sales as legitimate moves to take advantage of demand from customers.

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icon Re: Ko je sledeci?23.07.2002. u 20:30 - pre 264 meseci
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Da, Qwest jeste sledeci: u sredu su akcije Qwesta pale 38%, posto je SEC poceo da se zanimava njihovom finansijama. Idemo dalje...


Dynegy (ticker DYN)? Oni momci i devojke koji su se "ozbiljno" bili naostrili da pazare Enron kada je Enron glumio zvezdu-padalicu (pre accounting skandala).

DYN 1.27 -2.11

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http://biz.yahoo.com/djus/020723/200207231337000846_2.html

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