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Cluster how to? Kako da napravim mali klastercic?

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Cluster how to? Kako da napravim mali klastercic? 30.12.2004. u 02:32 · pre 265 meseci #1
Zanima me sta je (ali u sto vise detalja) potrebno od hardware-a i software-a za sastavljanje jednog malog klastercica (od oko 10-ak nodova)?
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Re: Cluster how to? Kako da napravim mali klastercic? 30.12.2004. u 13:26 · pre 265 meseci #2
Ako si mislio da to radis u gimnaziji, odmah da ti kazem da ne pokusavas.
Ja svojevremeno nisam uspeo Tasu i Peku da ubedim ni da se stave linuxi dualboot.
Hteo sam i ja da pravim klaster, ali zapravo, u gimnaziji nemas sta na njemu ni da racunas. :)
I, ako si bas resio, onda http://rocks.npaci.edu/Rocks/ :)
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Re: Cluster how to? Kako da napravim mali klastercic? 30.12.2004. u 18:08 · pre 265 meseci #3
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Hteo sam i ja da pravim klaster, ali zapravo, u gimnaziji nemas sta na njemu ni da racunas. :)


Pa u Gimnaziji nema sta da racuna ali recimo da bi mozda ja hteo da nesto racunam za sebe - za svoje potrebe :), mada ....

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VRider:�Ako si mislio da to radis u gimnaziji, odmah da ti kazem da ne pokusavas.
Ja svojevremeno nisam uspeo Tasu i Peku da ubedim ni da se stave linuxi dualboot.


...mi se cini da sam i ja vrlo blizu tome :)
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-I srusise se nasi divni snovi !!!
-NATO is bombing Serbia, a Yugoslavian republic, to stop the Serbs from forcing ethnic Albanians from Kosovo. Serb supporters sock it to NATO, U.S. Web sites. Magis says NATO headquarters won't launch an electronic counterstrike. "We want to show we're more civilized," he says. "We believe in freedom of speech." NATO is even discussing the possibility of hosting Serbian information on the Web so the Serbs can share their views.
Re: Cluster how to? Kako da napravim mali klastercic? 30.12.2004. u 18:43 · pre 265 meseci #4
E, nesto me bas na pocetku jako zanima. Kad se sve to instalira i namesti, kad postane cluster, ako napravim neku aplikaciju (koja nesto kao racuna) jel moram da je isprogramiram tako da se naizmenicno obraca svakom nod-u ponaosob i sl. ili ga samo pustim i operativni sistem vodi racuna o svemu?
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-I srusise se nasi divni snovi !!!
-NATO is bombing Serbia, a Yugoslavian republic, to stop the Serbs from forcing ethnic Albanians from Kosovo. Serb supporters sock it to NATO, U.S. Web sites. Magis says NATO headquarters won't launch an electronic counterstrike. "We want to show we're more civilized," he says. "We believe in freedom of speech." NATO is even discussing the possibility of hosting Serbian information on the Web so the Serbs can share their views.
Re: Cluster how to? Kako da napravim mali klastercic? 30.12.2004. u 18:52 · pre 265 meseci #5
Idi bolje, Mare, juri sojke umesto sto racunas...
Linux u Gimnaziji je losa ideja. Milivojevici odose, Tasa i Peka nece time da se zamajavaju (jer tu para nema), a tako da samo sebi pravis posao.
Sve zavisi sta se resis da racunas. Ima i laksih nacina da se to sto tebi treba odradi i bez stavljanja u cluster.
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Re: Cluster how to? Kako da napravim mali klastercic? 30.12.2004. u 23:03 · pre 265 meseci #6
Možda za start da probate recimo sa LiveCD clusterKnoppix-om koji pomoću OpenMosix-a to radi bez potrebe HD instalacije... pa ako Vam se svidi...well. Više dodatnih info imate na DistroWatch-u
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=clusterknoppix
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Re: Cluster how to? Kako da napravim mali klastercic? 03.01.2005. u 00:20 · pre 265 meseci #7
Gledao sam na tom sajtu FAQ i nesto pominju neki PXE koji je podrzan na mreznoj kartici pa me zanima sta je to ?
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-I srusise se nasi divni snovi !!!
-NATO is bombing Serbia, a Yugoslavian republic, to stop the Serbs from forcing ethnic Albanians from Kosovo. Serb supporters sock it to NATO, U.S. Web sites. Magis says NATO headquarters won't launch an electronic counterstrike. "We want to show we're more civilized," he says. "We believe in freedom of speech." NATO is even discussing the possibility of hosting Serbian information on the Web so the Serbs can share their views.
Re: Cluster how to? Kako da napravim mali klastercic? 03.01.2005. u 01:10 · pre 265 meseci #8
@dpop - hvala za info a slucajno sam naso i ovaj clanak, koji mi se bas dopao, napisan onako popularno

@pirgos_madden: Ja sam sa citiranog sajta otisao na sledeci http://www-106.ibm.com/develop....html?ca=dgr-lnxw17ClusterKnop

i tu iz ciste radoznalosti (jer nemam ambicija da se time bavim) procitao skoro ceo clanak. Tu mi je u vezi mreznih kartica palo u oci sledece, sto smatram dosta vaznim i prakticnim:

ClusterKnoppix has the ability to sniff out drones as they boot on the network, but you need special LAN cards and a BIOS that supports booting over the network. Because the cost of replicating CDs is minimal and you want X running on all the nodes, it's easiest to use as many ClusterKnoppix CDs as there are nodes in the cluster.

Na sajtu http://www.kegel.com/linux/pxe.html imas objasnjenje sta je PXE a na sajtu http://rom-o-matic.net/ imas objasnjenje sta raditi ako nemas PXE ali mi se cini da je ovaj trik sa vise CD-a jednostavniji, bar za pocetak.

Sretno klasterisanje!
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Re: Cluster how to? Kako da napravim mali klastercic? 03.01.2005. u 01:45 · pre 265 meseci #9
Ovde je jos jasnije objasnjen termin tj. definicija: http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/P/PXE.html

Short for Pre-Boot Execution Environment. Pronounced pixie, PXE is one of the components of Intel's WfM specification. It allows a workstation to boot from a server on a network prior to booting the operating system on the local hard drive. A PXE-enabled workstation connects its NIC to the LAN via a jumper, which keeps the workstation connected to the network even when the power is off. Because a network administrator does not have to physically visit the specific workstation and manually boot it, operating systems and other software, such as diagnostic programs, can be loaded onto the device from a server over the network.

PXE is a mandatory element of the WfM specification. To be considered compliant, the PXE must be supported by the computer's BIOS and its NIC.
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Na svetu postoje samo 2 OS-a: 1. Mint, 2. svi ostali!
Re: Cluster how to? Kako da napravim mali klastercic? 03.01.2005. u 19:17 · pre 265 meseci #10
Procitao sam clanak i nije mi jasam ovaj deo:

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Open any word processor, copy this script, and save it as testapp.c. Make this script available on all the nodes in the cluster.

To execute this script, issue these commands on all the nodes. First, compile the C program:

gcc testapp.c -o testapp

Then, execute ./testapp.

Execute the script at least once on all the nodes. I executed three instances on both nodes.

After executing each instance, toggle back to the applications described above. Notice the spur of activity. Enjoy watching your drawing room cluster migrate processes from one node to another. Look Ma, it's balancing loads!


Pa cekajte, kakav je to klaster kad ja moram da izvrsavam skriptu na svakoj masini, zar master node ne moze da rasporedi opterecenje na svaki procesor pojedinacno? Sta im znaci "make this script available on all the nodes" - na koji nacin da to ucinim, iskopiram na svaku masinu, preko mreze nesto?
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-I srusise se nasi divni snovi !!!
-NATO is bombing Serbia, a Yugoslavian republic, to stop the Serbs from forcing ethnic Albanians from Kosovo. Serb supporters sock it to NATO, U.S. Web sites. Magis says NATO headquarters won't launch an electronic counterstrike. "We want to show we're more civilized," he says. "We believe in freedom of speech." NATO is even discussing the possibility of hosting Serbian information on the Web so the Serbs can share their views.
Re: Cluster how to? Kako da napravim mali klastercic? 03.01.2005. u 19:32 · pre 265 meseci #11
Moras prvo da odlucis kakav klaster ti treba posto je klaster veoma genericki pojam i moze znaciti mnogo toga i nista :) Prvo se upoznaj sa tipovima klastera i sa problemom koji hoces da resavas klasterima.

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pirgos_madden: Procitao sam clanak i nije mi jasam ovaj deo:

Pa cekajte, kakav je to klaster kad ja moram da izvrsavam skriptu na svakoj masini, zar master node ne moze da rasporedi opterecenje na svaki procesor pojedinacno? Sta im znaci "make this script available on all the nodes" - na koji nacin da to ucinim, iskopiram na svaku masinu, preko mreze nesto?


Obicno je master node i nfs server, a ostali nodovi su diskless klijenti koji vuku fs sa mastera...
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Re: Cluster how to? Kako da napravim mali klastercic? 29.05.2006. u 11:49 · pre 248 meseci
izmenjeno 1 put, poslednji put akiko1 30.05.2006. u 00:45
  1. akiko130.05.2006. u 00:45zapis iz teksta poruke
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Ima li ko neki primjer nekog svog klastera na Linux-u sa objasnjenjem kako i sta radi da mi posalje na mail?
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