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^{11.10.2018. u 16:25 - pre 67 meseci}

Pa, detalji su baš ti.

1. Korisnik nije zaključavao ništa. Nije stavljao bitlocker. Imao je normalan nalog sa lozinkom.
2. Instaliran je update.
3. Mašina se restartovala.
4. Tražila je Bitlocker ključ.

Otišao sam u konzolu i probao da pređem na disk C:, ali mi je poslao poruku o grešci da ne može da otključa enkriptovan disk. Jedino rešenje je bilo vraćanje u fabričko stanje.

Problem se desio na dva identična DELL laptopa u firmi i kod jednog kolege kod kuće ne znam na kojoj mašini.

Ransomware je bio manje štetan. Mogli su se povratiti podaci za neke pare. Ovde jok. Takođe, ransomware je imao demo otključavanje nekog broja fajlova. Ovde nema ništa.

P. S. Rečeno mi je da su BIOS-i bili automatski ažurirani.

Nije bitno koji su zaključci izvučeni, već kako se do njih došlo.

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^{11.10.2018. u 17:19 - pre 67 meseci}

Biće da je do Dell-a, a ne Microsofta
https://www.dell.com/community...ever-installed-it/td-p/6019486

A neko je uspeo i da otključa uz pomoć Dell podrške
https://www.dell.com/community.../6108454/highlight/true#M12466

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^{11.10.2018. u 17:46 - pre 67 meseci}

Citat:

All,

I too have the same problem. First of all let me say I have been a tech for over 25 years and have Cisco, Microsoft, SAP, etc, etc, etc certificates coming out of my ears. I'm not saying that because I'm bragging because they don't mean squat to me. I say that because I want you to know my life is computers. So this isn't coming from some "newbie." (Sorry newbies no offense, you'll get old & crusty too just give it time) Someone mentioned the possibility that the reason some of these computers are having this problem is because they are not "genuine" Dell or they are returns or refurbs. That is not true. I am a Dell reseller and sell quite a few Latitudes to a local compact equipment dealer. They have 6 locations in 4 states and use a lot of laptops. I order ALL of my laptops through my Premier account. Brand new Latitudes between $1200-$1800. Over the past 6-8 months I have had 4 laptops do this exact thing. I was lucky with 2 of them and just kept rebooting and/or doing a "hard" reset, and they eventually booted. They have been fine since. The other 2 however did not boot again. I had to wipe them clean and start over. I had backups but that's not the point. Do you know how long it takes to reload Windows 10 and all the updates (can you say creators edition?). I called Dell support not to see if they could do anything, because once a drive is encrypted you are NEVER going to access it without the key. (And of course I didn't have a key BECAUSE I DIDN'T ENCRYPT IT). The reason I called tech support was to see if they knew why it decided to encrypt itself? They had no idea and pretty much said it was done by the user. Like EVERYONE on here has said, it was NOT done by choice. I can promise you my end users have absolutely no idea what BitLocker is, much less how to use it. Besides you have to access it through Control Panel and that's not an easy task in Windows 10. And even if you did somehow manage to access the program, it still requires a lot of input from the user to actually perform the process. It warns you multiple times so it's not likely that anyone "accidentally" encrypted their drive. The point I'm trying to make (for those of you who keep hinting that the end user is somehow to blame) is that there's a definite problem, and it's NOT the user. And it's NOT questionable equipment purchases. Dell Latitudes are encrypting themselves and someone at Dell needs to acknowledge it and fix it.

A ovo je poen ;)

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Hey guys I just ran into this problem last night and solved it. On another device enter the website that comes up in the bitlocker screen. Your outlook email will come up, enter your email you use for windows and than password, it will than ask for you to choose one of your recovery emails, choose one and than confirm it by typing it in also, it will send you a code to that email, go to that email and than you have the code to enter. go back to the regular email and press you have code and than enter it. Than you will have 1 to 3 different bitlocker codes to unlock your hard drive and get back to windows. Try all 3 until one of them works on the bitlocker screen.

Znaci salju passfraze u emailu ;)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Dell takodje prodaje laptopove sa Linux-om da li se i to tamo desava ;))))))))))))))))

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^{11.10.2018. u 19:24 - pre 67 meseci}

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^{11.10.2018. u 20:36 - pre 67 meseci}

Ko na kraju šalje ključeve, DELL ili Microsoft?

Nije bitno koji su zaključci izvučeni, već kako se do njih došlo.

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^{11.10.2018. u 20:50 - pre 67 meseci}

Microsoft salje recovery passphrase ako je BitLocker konfigurisan da postoji mogucnost otkljucavanja sa recovery lozinkom.

A Dell je ocigledno odgovoran za (mis)konfiguraciju sistema.

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^{11.10.2018. u 21:32 - pre 67 meseci}

Najodgovorniji je korisnik koji bitne fajlove čuva samo na jednom mestu. I to još laptopu

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^{12.10.2018. u 07:30 - pre 67 meseci}

Lepo objašnjenje za OS koji je ovo-ono.

Nije bitno koji su zaključci izvučeni, već kako se do njih došlo.

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^{12.10.2018. u 09:54 - pre 67 meseci}

Do proizvođača hardvera je problem. Oni koriste opcije OS-a koje ne bi trebalo ako ih korisnik ne želi

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^{12.10.2018. u 10:08 - pre 67 meseci}

OK, lepo objašnjenje za kompletno legalnu i brendiranu opremu koja je ovo-ono.

Zato ja lepo stavim GNU/Linux i voila, a ne da mi tamo neki DELL/MS/kogod brlja po kompu. Hoću da ja imam kontrolu nad svojim računarom. Vidiš šta znače sloboda, ljubav i mir u svetu.

Da je Pera odmah otišao u policiju, svega ovoga ne bi bilo.

OK je kupiti i neki DELL ubuntu da bi se znalo da je sav hardver Linux kompatibilan, pa pregaziti njihovu instalaciju i staviti svoju.

Nije bitno koji su zaključci izvučeni, već kako se do njih došlo.

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