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icon Oracle tuži Google14.04.2012. u 10:23 - pre 146 meseci
http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/04/google-oracle/
http://www.wired.com/wiredente...acle-Charges-clarification.pdf
 
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icon Re: Oracle tuži Google24.05.2012. u 02:15 - pre 144 meseci
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A California federal jury ruled on Wednesday that Google did not infringe on Oracle’s patents in developing the Android operating system.

Following a week of deliberations, the jury in the intellectual property case has come back with an unanimous verdict that Google did not infringe on Oracle’s Java patents.

“Today’s jury verdict that Android does not infringe Oracle’s patents was a victory not just for Google but the entire Android ecosystem,” Google said in an e-mailed statement to Mashable.

The judge reportedly dismissed the jurors and the third phase of the trial, which would have covered damages if Google was found guilty.

Oracle also released a statement following the verdict: “Oracle presented overwhelming evidence at trial that Google knew it would fragment and damage Java. We plan to continue to defend and uphold Java’s core write once run anywhere principle and ensure it is protected for the nine million Java developers and the community that depend on Java compatibility.”

So where does the case go from here? The judge still needs to rule on 37 APIs to see if the sequence and structure of the software infringes on copyright issues. If he decides they are not protected by copyright laws, there would be no damages phase but Oracle may be subject to statutory damages of about $1 million. Note: This sum wouldn’t come close to covering Oracle’s legal bills.

If the judge rules that there is copyright infringement with the APIs, a new jury would come in and a separate trial would begin.

Oracle came into the case seeking $6 billion in damages.

Earlier this month, a federal jury issued a partial verdict in the first phase of the case. The jury found that Google infringed on Oracle’s Java patents, but it was deadlocked around whether Google proved that its copying of Java was “fair use.”

Oracle sued Google in 2010 over its use of the Java programming language and software tools. Oracle acquired Java when it purchased Sun Microsystems in 2010.


Verdict: Google wins in Oracle patent suit
 
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icon Re: Oracle tuži Google24.05.2012. u 22:23 - pre 144 meseci
Može li neko da mi objasni kakva je to slobodna patentirana platforma, koju niko ne sme da implementira? MS se nije duvao sa slobodom, pa ipak nikada nije pravio problem oko npr. ReactOS-a.
Nije bitno koji su zaključci izvučeni, već kako se do njih došlo.
 
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icon Re: Oracle tuži Google25.05.2012. u 05:50 - pre 144 meseci
U čemu je razlika između Guglove implementacije jave i one koju je sprovodio Majkrosoft u okviru J++ paketa? MS je tužen i taj spor je izgubio.
 
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icon Re: Oracle tuži Google25.05.2012. u 11:58 - pre 144 meseci
Pa, u tome što gugl ima krilaticu "do not evil". Da je MS izbacio neku takvu floskulu, dobio bi spor.
Nije bitno koji su zaključci izvučeni, već kako se do njih došlo.
 
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icon Re: Oracle tuži Google26.05.2012. u 12:34 - pre 144 meseci
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bigvlada: U čemu je razlika između Guglove implementacije jave i one koju je sprovodio Majkrosoft u okviru J++ paketa? MS je tužen i taj spor je izgubio.


sudija koji zna da programira :)

pre spora je covek isao na kurseve da bi razumeo o cemu se radi
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Judge: We heard the testimony of Mr. Bloch. I couldn't have told you the first thing about Java before this problem. I have done, and still do, a significant amount of programming in other languages. I've written blocks of code like rangeCheck a hundred times before. I could do it, you could do it. The idea that someone would copy that when they could do it themselves just as fast, it was an accident. There's no way you could say that was speeding them along to the marketplace. You're one of the best lawyers in America, how could you even make that kind of argument?

Oracle: I want to come back to rangeCheck.

Judge: rangeCheck! All it does is make sure the numbers you're inputting are within a range, and gives them some sort of exceptional treatment. That witness, when he said a high school student could do it--

Oracle: I'm not an expert on Java -- this is my second case on Java, but I'm not an expert, and I probably couldn't program that in six months. Let me come back to rangeCheck after I've reminded the Court about the test files.


advokati...

ako bas hocete detalje:
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20120515120106322
 
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icon Re: Oracle tuži Google27.05.2012. u 06:39 - pre 144 meseci
Ovo je bilo interesantno čitati (ne kao čuveni antimonopolski proces protiv MS-a ali interesantno). Sudija koji zbog slučaja odluči da nauči da programira u javi. To će se ovde desiti možda za 200 godina.

Ovo je link ka ppt prezentaciji u pdf fajlu koju je spremio Oracle. Malo objašnjava stvari.

http://www.groklaw.net/pdf3/Or...ng20120515PRESENTEDINCOURT.pdf
 
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icon Re: Oracle tuži Google27.05.2012. u 15:43 - pre 144 meseci
Drago mi je da je Oracle izgubio spor.

Ali zato ce isti taj Oracle uskoro da nagu*i HP ovim povodom, a tu ce mi biti takodje drago :)
 
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icon Re: Oracle tuži Google21.06.2012. u 12:48 - pre 143 meseci
Evo pristali su na dogovor :) da dobiju nula dolara :)

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2.../21/oracle_nothing_in_damages/
 
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icon Re: Oracle tuži Google22.06.2012. u 13:34 - pre 143 meseci
I onda je razocarani Larry Ellison kupio sebi Havajsko ostrvo da popravi raspolozenje ....
Nasekirao se covek

http://www.forbes.com/sites/cl...nai-island-david-murdock-dole/
 
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