Navigacija
Lista poslednjih: 16, 32, 64, 128 poruka.

Ping koji je u minusu!

[es] :: Windows mreže :: Ping koji je u minusu!

[ Pregleda: 2676 | Odgovora: 6 ] > FB > Twit

Postavi temu Odgovori

Autor

Pretraga teme: Traži
Markiranje Štampanje RSS

TrickyTrix

Član broj: 9478
Poruke: 83
85.222.177.*



Profil

icon Ping koji je u minusu!31.08.2009. u 19:46 - pre 178 meseci
Na Win 2003 Serveru R2 mi se desava da kada pingujem samog sebe dobijem negativan ping, a posto sam prilicno siguran da nisam otkrio vremensku rupu kojom bi se vracao u proslost to predstavlja problem koji moram resiti. Dakle normalan odziv je 22ms, <1ms, a ja nekad dobijem i -22ms kao odgovor na ping! Video sam na netu da se taj problem javljao ljudima sa AMD procesorima sa vise jezgara koji su resavali apdejtom AMD drajvera, ali ja imam Intelov Core2Quad i drajveri za Intelove procesore ne postoje. Da li neko ima ideju kako da ovo resim i da li je neko uopste imao susreta sa negativnim pingom?

[Ovu poruku je menjao TrickyTrix dana 01.09.2009. u 09:36 GMT+1]
 
Odgovor na temu

Librabicboj

Član broj: 88931
Poruke: 409
77.46.229.*



+7 Profil

icon Re: Ping koji je u minusu!31.08.2009. u 22:02 - pre 178 meseci
Da, desava se na AMD,ali na Intel ne (ali hoce na pojedinim Quad) !

Procitaj, mozda ti ovo pomogne

http://blogs.technet.com/yongr...mer-rtsc-time-drift-issue.aspx

http://www.mskbarticles.com/index.php?kb=895980/

Javi sta si uradio.

 
Odgovor na temu

anon68680

Član broj: 68680
Poruke: 528
79.101.204.*



+14 Profil

icon Re: Ping koji je u minusu!31.08.2009. u 23:07 - pre 178 meseci
offtopic:
zasto je bitno? S obzirom da pinguje sebe, ne vidim poentu..
 
Odgovor na temu

valjan
Janko Valencik
Software Deployer
Schneider Electric
Novi Sad

Član broj: 158605
Poruke: 3531
*.adsl.eunet.rs.



+553 Profil

icon Re: Ping koji je u minusu!01.09.2009. u 07:51 - pre 178 meseci
Citat:
In the affected server open the boot.ini
Add the /UsePMTimer switch.


To je privremeno resenje koje sam nasao na 20-ak foruma, a imas malo vise detalja o svemu ovome i na linkovima koje ti je poslao Librabicboj. Cak i onaj AMD-ov drajver ne popravlja direktno problem nego dodaje ovaj switch u boot.ini. Problem postoji na AMD Dual Core (Opteron) procesorima i nekim modelima Intel Quad Core, i to recimo postoji na Win XP SP2 i Win Serveru 2003 R2, ali ne i na standardnom Win Serveru 2003 SP2 ni na 2008 ni Visti.
 
Odgovor na temu

TrickyTrix

Član broj: 9478
Poruke: 83
212.200.251.*



Profil

icon Re: Ping koji je u minusu!01.09.2009. u 08:33 - pre 178 meseci
Na serveru se pojavljivala Userenv greska (Event ID 1054) pa sam proverom Userenv logova utvrdio da prilikom provere prisutnosti DCa server pinguje samog sebe i tu video ping u minusu koji je najverovatnije uzrok greske. Nakon toga sam i iz cmd-a pingovao samog sebe i utvrdio da zaista ponekad kao odgovor server vraca minus ping.
Hvala na odgovorima.
 
Odgovor na temu

TrickyTrix

Član broj: 9478
Poruke: 83
212.200.251.*



Profil

icon Re: Ping koji je u minusu!01.09.2009. u 14:09 - pre 178 meseci
Ubacio sam switch u boot.ini, restartovao server i i dalje ima minus pingova. Nego da li ima neko ideju kako da usporim odziv servera za minimum 50ms kako bih proverio da li su minus pingovi izvor gresaka koje mi se javljaju na serveru.
 
Odgovor na temu

valjan
Janko Valencik
Software Deployer
Schneider Electric
Novi Sad

Član broj: 158605
Poruke: 3531
*.adsl.eunet.rs.



+553 Profil

icon Re: Ping koji je u minusu!01.09.2009. u 14:53 - pre 178 meseci
Nadam se da ti je engleski dovoljno dobar pa da ces iz sledeceg texta mozda dobiti neku ideju:

Citat:
Generally, there are 3 components that affect ping times, and they are (1) your computer, (2) the network, and (3) the computer you are pinging.
1. Your computer - Your computer is responsible for generating the ping message, and for placing the ping message on the network. Then, some time later, is responsible for retrieving the ping time from the network, and then, finally, processing the ping message and calculating the ping time. If your computer is underpowered and is taking time doing things other than managing the ping time, you can introduce lag into the system. Having a slower speed CPU, insufficient RAM, a fragmented hard drive, or low-end video cards all contribute to higher ping times. If you have joined a game server, options such as render detail, screen resolution, etc. all contribute to ping times. Having a faster render rate will usually help decrease ping times. If you serving a game, then using the dedicated server option over using a serve-n-play option will help decrease ping times.
2. The network - Most of the time the only control you have over the network is your ability to select what ISP you use and what type of connection you are using (i.e., DSL, Cable Modem, dialup, etc). Broadband networks yield in higher throughput and usually handle load much better than, say, dial up connections. "Time of day" plays a factor in the performance of a network; Morning, evenings and weekends tend to be the busiest times and therefore cause more load on the network, which yields in higher ping times. The distance between you and the other computer plays a big factor as well. Connecting to game servers that are geographically near you help lowers ping times.
3. The other computer - The computer you are pinging may be accepting a large amount of network traffic, or they may be a slow computer, or they may contain low resources. The computer you ping may be CPU or memory limited, and therefore the time it is spending doing those things is it not spending sending your ping reply. If you are a client and you are joining a serve-n-play server, then your ping times may increase because the server is spending more time rendering, playing sounds, accessing RAM, hard drives, etc., than a dedicated server would.



BTW, upravo sam naisao na savet negde na netu da probas da stavis dva firewalla, i zvuci izvodljivo, pa probaj.

BTW2, u jednom od onih clanaka se spominje:

Citat:
The decision to use the PM timer or the TSC timer is made during a check that is performed at startup to query the BIOS and to determine whether the BIOS will support the PM timer functions. This check is not completely accurate on AMD chipsets. Therefore, you must use the /usepmtimer switch.


Mozda da potrazis sveziji BIOS pa flashujes ovaj tvoj, ako vec nisi pokusao i to.
 
Odgovor na temu

[es] :: Windows mreže :: Ping koji je u minusu!

[ Pregleda: 2676 | Odgovora: 6 ] > FB > Twit

Postavi temu Odgovori

Navigacija
Lista poslednjih: 16, 32, 64, 128 poruka.