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icon Objasnjenje za EIST i C1E ?07.08.2008. u 22:42 - pre 191 meseci
Na puno foruma sam nailazio da je potrebno prilikom overclocka u biosu isključiti EIST i C1E , može li neko objasniti zasta sluzi jedno a zasta drugo i sto neophodno iskljucivati ?? Kako sam zakljucio da jedna od ovih opcija smanjuje mnozilac kad procesor nije opterećen , zasto se to iskljucuje kad se vrsi overclock procesora jer je to po meni korisna opcija.Na mojoj ploci sam pronasao C1E , ali EIST nigdje nisam nasao da li je moguce da se zove drugacije.Ploca je ASUS P5KC , a CPU Core2Duo E8300.
 
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icon Re: Objasnjenje za EIST i C1E ?09.08.2008. u 12:04 - pre 191 meseci
Nadam se da će ovo malo pojasniti razliku:

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2725

C1E - Enhanced Halt State

"Whenever the OS executes the halt instruction, the CPU enters what is known as the halt state. Architecturally, what's going on in a halt state is the clock signal is shut off to the CPU for some period of time. With no clock signal, none of the logic in the chip will do anything and thus power consumption is reduced. Performance is also significantly reduced; however, the halt instruction isn't usually called during application usage, so the performance aspects of the halt state aren't very important.

The problem with the halt state is that it does nothing to reduce voltage, only current draw by stopping clocks from going to the CPU. Since Power varies linearly with both current and voltage (P = I * V), you're effectively only addressing half of the problem. The Enhanced Halt State, as Intel calls it, does two things: it reduces the clock speed of the CPU by decreasing the clock multiplier down to its minimum value (on the EE 965 series, that's 14x, or 2.8GHz), then reducing the voltage. The clock speed is reduced and then the voltage is dropped, to maintain stability.

Intel insists that the enhanced halt state is a significantly lower power state than the conventional halt state, thanks to the reduction in voltage in addition to the reduction in clock speed. While the standard halt state causes a linear reduction in power, Intel's enhanced halt state causes an exponential decrease in power, potentially offering better power savings than the standard halt state. The real world impact obviously depends on how idle your system happens to be."

EIST:

"What EIST does is very similar to AMD's Cool'n'Quiet. It is demand based reduction in CPU clock speed and voltage. Using the same mechanism of adjusting clock speed and voltage, based on the application demand, the processor will dynamically increase/decrease its clock speed between its minimum clock and its normal operating frequency, as well as voltage, in order to optimize for power consumption.

Because of the way EIST (and AMD's Cool'n'Quiet) works, there's inherently a drop in performance. The idea is this: if you're performing a task that's not using 100% of the CPU, the CPU will operate at a slightly reduced frequency in order to conserve power. So, while some tasks will require that the system run at full speed, others will run at lower speeds. "

 
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icon Re: Objasnjenje za EIST i C1E ?04.11.2008. u 08:35 - pre 188 meseci
C1E i EIST kao i sve ostale CPU Features mozes iskljuciti dok nalazis max.klok za masinu. Kad nadjes max koji radi maks.stabilno, sto znaci da prolazi sve testove bez pucanja programa, restarta, zamrzavanja masine onda mozes slobodno ukljuciti sve CPU Features u BIOS-u..
Nema potrebe da ti te dve stvari stoje iskljucene.. Klokovao sam oko 10 ploca i 3-4 procesora u raznim kombinacijama i nikad nisam imao problema sa C1E i EIST features-ima... Ja sam se vodio time sto svuda pise da se iskljucuju prilikom OC-a ali iz prakse ne vidim razloga za tu tvrdnju.. Jedino sto treba iskljuciti prilikom OC-a su Spread Spectrum-i..
 
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