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icon Re: Windows Presentation Foundation26.04.2007. u 22:17
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To nikad nece naci svoj put do VS2005, posto je MS pustio novu seriju MS Expression proizvoda, tako da ce vizuelni deo posla oko WPFa morati da se radi u eksternom alatu


Zar nije tome namenjen "Cider" i koji će biti deo VS-a?

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1905923,00.asp

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Aha, ti reče "VS 2005" :)
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icon Re: Windows Presentation Foundation26.04.2007. u 22:39
Cider je WPF designer za VS2005 i nalazi se u onom "WPF Extension for VS 2005" na sta dadoh Shadowed-u link. Ovo je ujedno i poslednji Cider za vs2005, sve buduce verzije ce samo biti deo Orca-e, ali jos nisam nigde video nikakav announcement da ce finalni Cider u Orci biti iole blizu Expression-a (bar po vizuelnom dizajnu). Plan koliko vidim je da programeri rade u Orci, dizajneri u Expression Blend-u a da se baziraju na istom xaml standardu sto ce omoguciti spajanje njihova dva kljucno razlicita posla. Prethodni ovakav eksperiment sa aspx-om je propao posto su dizajneri vecito "lomili" asp.net tagova, a programeri besneli zbog nedostataka istih, videcemo nasta ce ovo liciti... Mislim da ni sam MS jos nije siguran u to, posto je odgovor koji sam dobio na proslom MS skupu ovde bio "Probably... Should be... But don't hold me to it" :)




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icon Re: Windows Presentation Foundation26.04.2007. u 23:40
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logic_rabbit: Graficke mogucnosti su impresivne premda nerazumem bas najbolje koja je prednost da forma bude u xaml-u??????????
Lik nam je pokazao forme koje je napravio cisto u xaml-u bez code behinda.


Pa za pocetak spoji ova dva. I u to ubaci XSLT procesor i videces da npr mozes kreirati forme dinamicki kroz transformaciju xmlova xaml je samo deklarativni oblik forme, nacin da se forma serijalizuje u neki opis. U winform aplikacija to se radilo kroz linearni kod u .designer.cs/.vb klasama sto je ok, ali samo po sebi nije bas lako za odrzavanje kroz dizajner jer je kod linearan a struktura kontrola hijerarhijska pa se to emuliralo kroz kod. Sada se to radi kroz xaml format koji je po prirodi hijerarhijski i mnogo bolje pase za tu ulogu.
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icon Re: Windows Presentation Foundation14.05.2007. u 12:40
OK, novosti sa MIX07 konferencije (nisam bio tamo nazalost, samo sam izbunario )

http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu...ve/2007/05/07/silverlight.aspx

Navodno je predstavljena verzija 1.1 Silverlight-a (kad pre , ni 1.0 jos nije RTM) sa sledecim gizmoima:

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Silverlight 1.1 includes a cross platform version of the .NET Framework, and enables a rich .NET development experience within a browser. The total download size of the Silverlight 1.1 package (including all of the 1.0 features + CLR + a WPF and .NET FX library API subset + dynamic language support) is ~4MB - and it takes less than 20 seconds to install on a machine

A built-in CLR engine that delivers a super high performance execution environment for the browser. Silverlight uses the same core CLR engine that we ship with the full .NET Framework today (we build it from a single source tree). It delivers the same type-system, garbage collector, and JIT code generation engine that your .NET code uses today. This means that you can write .NET code that can now run in Silverlight, ASP.NET, and a WinForms/WPF Windows application. It also means you can now execute code within the browser that runs more than 250x faster than interpreted Javascript.

Silverlight provides a managed HTML DOM API that enables you to program the HTML of a browser using any .NET language (this means you can now wire-up an event handler to an HTML button using C# or VB). Silverlight also provides the ability to have Javascript code within an HTML page call into .NET methods you expose from within your Silverlight control/application. Silverlight includes a JSON serializer that supports automatic marshalling of .NET datatypes to/from Javascript (meaning you can have standard browser Javascript code call a C# method within Silverlight, and have the C# method return a .NET collection which is then serialized by Silverlight into a Javascript collection for your browser Javascript to use).


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icon Re: Windows Presentation Foundation23.06.2007. u 23:02
Ljudi, ajde neka neko prostim jezikom objasni cemu sluzi taj Windows Presentation Foundation? Jel to treba da zameni Windows Forms ili je to za web programiranje. U Visual Studio Orcas sam video da moze da se pravi WinForms aplikacija (koja ide na framework 2.0) i WPF aplikacija (koja ide na framework 3.5). Koliko sam video, postavljanje kontrola je slicno kao i kod obicnih formi ali cemu to zapravo sluzi?? Raspored kontrola se belezi u nekakvom XML formatu ali mi to ne deluje kao nesto sto bi trebalo da me zanima.
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icon Re: Windows Presentation Foundation23.06.2007. u 23:43
Nije obavezno zamena, ali MS tezi tome.
Glavna stvar (prostim jezikom) je da daje vise mogucnosti, slozeniju manipulaciju, odvajanje gui-a od koda, bogatiji interface koji koristi DirectX za renderovanje (bolje performanse nego takav isti interface u WinForms pod uslovom da uspes da ga izvedes).
Sto se XAML-a tice (taj xml format), nije obavezno da ga znas (mozes crtati kontrole u VS-u), ali nije ni lose znati jer verovatno ne moze sve da se uradi mishopovlachenjem (nisam probao orcas).
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icon Re: Windows Presentation Foundation30.08.2007. u 15:02
Postoji li neka knjiga o WPF koja moze da se kupi kod nas u Beogradu (srpski ili engleski, nevazan jezik)?

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icon Re: Windows Presentation Foundation17.09.2007. u 01:07
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