opensuse pppoe dns ili gateway problem

pozdrav
pocetnik sam u svetu linuxa, pre par nedelja sam instalirao opensuse 11.2

preko yast sam namestio staticku IP adresu, i DSL konekciju da se kacim na mikrotik u LAN-u preko kojeg treba da idem na internet

uspesno se zakacim na mikrotik preko pppoe ali nemam internet,
stranicu mogu da otvorim ukoliko kucam ip adresu ali nemogu preko imena
ping preko imena nekad radi a nekad ne, u textu dole ja pingujem google preko imena li nemogu da ga otvorim u browseru i trace route je neuspesno

za pocetak stavljam ovo dole a ako treba jos nesto javite
hvala unapred

linux-0hel:/home # ifconfig
dsl0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
inet addr:10.11.108.34 P-t-P:10.10.108.70 Mask:255.255.255.255
UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1000 Metric:1
RX packets:6 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:5 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:3
RX bytes:300 (300.0 b) TX bytes:174 (174.0 b)

eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 40:61:86:4E:90:51
inet addr:192.168.24.68 Bcast:192.168.24.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
inet6 addr: fe80::4261:86ff:fe4e:9051/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:37768 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:356 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:3646984 (3.4 Mb) TX bytes:117653 (114.8 Kb)
Interrupt:34 Base address:0x2000

lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX packets:80 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:80 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:4944 (4.8 Kb) TX bytes:4944 (4.8 Kb)

linux-0hel:/home # nslookup all
;; Got SERVFAIL reply from 192.168.24.250, trying next server
;; Got SERVFAIL reply from 10.10.108.70, trying next server
Server: 8.8.8.8
Address: 8.8.8.8#53

** server can't find all: NXDOMAIN

linux-0hel:/home # route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
10.10.108.70 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 dsl0
192.168.24.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 dsl0

linux-0hel:/home # nslookup www.google.com
;; Got SERVFAIL reply from 192.168.24.250, trying next server
;; Got SERVFAIL reply from 10.10.108.70, trying next server
Server: 8.8.8.8
Address: 8.8.8.8#53

Non-authoritative answer:
www.google.com canonical name = www.l.google.com.
Name: www.l.google.com
Address: 209.85.149.105
Name: www.l.google.com
Address: 209.85.149.106
Name: www.l.google.com
Address: 209.85.149.99
Name: www.l.google.com
Address: 209.85.149.104
Name: www.l.google.com
Address: 209.85.149.103
Name: www.l.google.com
Address: 209.85.149.147

linux-0hel:/home # ping 209.85.149.105
PING 209.85.149.105 (209.85.149.105) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 209.85.149.105: icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=72.6 ms
64 bytes from 209.85.149.105: icmp_seq=2 ttl=53 time=84.6 ms
64 bytes from 209.85.149.105: icmp_seq=3 ttl=53 time=49.9 ms
^C
--- 209.85.149.105 ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2003ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 49.929/69.063/84.649/14.394 ms
linux-0hel:/home # ping www.google.com
PING www.l.google.com (209.85.149.104) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from ber01s02-in-f104.1e100.net (209.85.149.104): icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=41.2 ms
64 bytes from ber01s02-in-f104.1e100.net (209.85.149.104): icmp_seq=2 ttl=53 time=37.1 ms
64 bytes from ber01s02-in-f104.1e100.net (209.85.149.104): icmp_seq=3 ttl=53 time=39.4 ms
64 bytes from ber01s02-in-f104.1e100.net (209.85.149.104): icmp_seq=4 ttl=53 time=90.7 ms
64 bytes from ber01s02-in-f104.1e100.net (209.85.149.104): icmp_seq=5 ttl=53 time=60.8 ms
64 bytes from ber01s02-in-f104.1e100.net (209.85.149.104): icmp_seq=6 ttl=53 time=227 ms
^C
--- www.l.google.com ping statistics ---
6 packets transmitted, 6 received, 0% packet loss, time 9155ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 37.148/82.837/227.622/67.339 ms

linux-0hel:/home # traceroute www.google.com
www.google.com: Temporary failure in name resolution

linux-0hel:/home # traceroute 209.85.149.104
traceroute to 209.85.149.104 (209.85.149.104), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets using UDP
1 10.10.108.70 (10.10.108.70) 0.197 ms 0.168 ms 0.146 ms
2 10.0.20.10 (10.0.20.10) 0.328 ms 0.326 ms 0.340 ms
3 82.208.248.250 (82.208.248.250) 1.193 ms 1.080 ms 2.971 ms
4 82.208.248.249 (82.208.248.249) 3.920 ms 3.804 ms 7.644 ms
5 213.163.35.241 (213.163.35.241) 18.821 ms 12.337 ms 50.425 ms
6 213.163.35.249 (213.163.35.249) 50.828 ms 50.050 ms 49.962 ms
7 79.120.128.70 (79.120.128.70) 49.378 ms 49.967 ms 49.718 ms
8 * * *
9 * * *
10 * * *
11 209.85.254.21 (209.85.254.21) 78.074 ms 81.719 ms 209.85.254.29 (209.85.254.29) 55.744 ms
12 ber01s02-in-f104.1e100.net (209.85.149.104) 57.491 ms 60.018 ms 59.747 ms

Sta se sve nalazi u /etc/resolv.conf fajlu?

### /etc/resolv.conf file autogenerated by netconfig!
#
# Before you change this file manually, consider to define the
# static DNS configuration using the following variables in the
# /etc/sysconfig/network/config file:
# NETCONFIG_DNS_STATIC_SEARCHLIST
# NETCONFIG_DNS_STATIC_SERVERS
# NETCONFIG_DNS_FORWARDER
# or disable DNS configuration updates via netconfig by setting:
# NETCONFIG_DNS_POLICY=''
#
# See also the netconfig(8) manual page and other documentation.
#
# Note: Manual change of this file disables netconfig too, but
# may get lost when this file contains comments or empty lines
# only, the netconfig settings are same with settings in this
# file and in case of a "netconfig update -f" call.
#
### Please remove (at least) this line when you modify the file!
nameserver 192.168.24.250
nameserver 10.10.108.70
nameserver 8.8.8.8


kada nisam zakacen preko pppoe onda stoji samo jedan
nameserver 192.168.24.250


_{[Ovu poruku je menjao pasuljj dana 14.06.2011. u 09:05 GMT+1]}

Iz ovoga sto si napisao vidim da je jedini DNS server koji radi ovaj 8.8.8.8 (google public dns).

Mozes izmeniti /etc/resolv.conf tako da stoji samo 8.8.8.8.
Takodje dodaj/izmeni u /etc/sysconfig/network/config sledecu liniju:


Ovaj parametar bi trebalo da ti omoguci da se resolv.conf vise ne menja prilikom uspostavljanja pppoe konekcije.

Probaj ponovo connect/disconnect pppoe konekcije i javi da li je sada sve ok (da li ti radi internet i da li je resolv.conf ostao ne promenjen).

hvala hvala hvala.......
patio sam se sa ovim dugo, nisam ni mogao da pretpostavim da je u tome problem

gledao sam bio recolv.conf i video da ima dns-ove kad se zakaci pppoe, 8.8.8.8 suse dobija kao parametar preko pppoe

stavio sam i
nameserver 192.168.24.250 ispod 8.8.8.8 petpostavljam da je sad 8.8.8.8 default
a 192.168.24.250 mi sluzi kao dns za LAN

Takav setup nije bas najbolje resenje ali ako ti takav vrsi posao onda okej :) Ako nesto treba jos slobodno pitaj. Pozdrav.

/edit: Tvoj sistem u ovom slucaju prvo pita google dns pa tek onda 192.168.24.250


_{[Ovu poruku je menjao Miroslav Strugarevic dana 15.06.2011. u 20:26 GMT+1]}

Evo da ne otvaram novi topic a imam slican problem nadam se pocetnicke prirode (pocetnik sam).
Ja imam Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop 11, i imam onaj D-link DSL-360R modem (nije router) za kacenje na net sto isto ide na LAN.
U Yast sam na DSL podesio ono slicno kao u Win, PPPOE, user name i pass, Provider i sl.
Ali ja ne dobijam nikakvu ikonicu za konekciju, dakle ne mogu da se nakacim na net, iz Firefox-a ne moze da se otvori nijedna stranica.
Da li nesto fali da se instalira, ili neka procedura? brzom pretragom na net nisam uspio da nadjem neko valjano uputstvo.

Probaj sa ovog linka... Javi da li si uspeo.

http://lifestory.moqin.com/?p=356

Hvala za link. Probao sam (Gnome okruzenje), dobio network ikonicu dolje i napravio DSL konekciju 1 i dosao do onoga gdje treba da kliknem na DSL connection 1 da bih dobio upit za username i pass. Medjutim nista se ne desava, i dalje ne mogu da otvorim internet.
Network ikonica je prekrizena crvenim znakom stop, kao da nije konektovana na mrezu. Nesto slicno kao kod Win-a kad javlja da nema mreze. Ulazio sam na podesavanje mreze koje je bilo automatski postavljeno na DHCP, kad sam postavljao na Link Localy, znak stop se izgubio i mreza je javljala da se konektovana ali dsl i dalje ne radi.

Jel Network Manager zaduzen za mrezu ili je klasican ifup?



U tvom slucaju to bi trebao biti NetworkManager.

Identicne te dvije opcije imaju i kod mene, i postavio sam na Network manager i tad sam dobio mreznu ikonicu dolje desno u panelu.
Ali tu nije nastao problem vec kod kreiranja DSL konekcije, koju napravim ali nece da se konektuje.

Evo me kucam sa OpenSuse 11.4, njega sam morao instalirati da bi ovo profunkcionisalo. Ocigledno u Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop 11 je nesto zezalo. Nije mi jasno zasto nisam odmah instalirao OpenSuse.
Hvala svima!

A koji postupak za podesavanje si koristio?

Sa onog linka sto si gore postavio za Gnome okruzenje.