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Wikipedia - Prior Art

Prior art (also known as state of the art, which also has other meanings, or background art[1]), in most systems of patent law,[2] constitutes all information that has been made available to the public in any form before a given date that might be relevant to a patent's claims of originality. If an invention has been described in prior art, a patent on that invention is not valid.

Da li ovo znači da ako dođem do nekog izuma i objavim ga pre patentiranja, da naknadno ne mogu da ga patentiram?

Nije bitno koji su zaključci izvučeni, već kako se do njih došlo.

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^{04.08.2010. u 13:28 - pre 167 meseci}

Ili još gore - patentirao sam u Srbiji, pa posle ne mogu u SAD? Kako to ide?

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^{04.08.2010. u 13:31 - pre 167 meseci}

Prior Art je ako si ti patentirao nešto što je već negde bilo objavljeno, to je prior art što poništava patent. Ako ti patentiraš nešto (podneseš prijavu) što je neko drugi izmislio, a pre nego što taj drugi objavi ili patentira, ti si onda vlasnik patenta.

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^{04.08.2010. u 15:40 - pre 167 meseci}

Nisi razumeo moje pitanje.

Recimo da JA dodjem na neku ideju, objdavim je JA prvi u okviru knjige ili naučnog rada ili druge publikacije i sutra ne mogu JA da patentiram taj izum, jer je eto, prethodno objavljeno (JA sam objavio).

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^{04.08.2010. u 15:47 - pre 167 meseci}

Tacno - to je prior art.

Zato niko nista ne objavljuje dok ne podnese aplikaciju.

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^{04.08.2010. u 15:59 - pre 167 meseci}

Cekaj, zar nije sam cin objave uspostavljanje prior art-a, posle mozes ali ne moras da trazis patent ali sprecavas druge da uzmu patent za tu ideju. I self-plagiarism je valjda akademska kategorija, zasto je to prepreka patentu?

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^{04.08.2010. u 16:19 - pre 167 meseci}

Sam cim objave je uspostavljanje prior-arta naravno - i odnosi se i na podnosioca i onoga sto on objavi. Mislim da u USA postoje neka olaksanja (mala, i samo u slucaju da je u pitanju prosla patentna aplikacija) ali posto vecina ima nameru da patent registruje u vise zemalja onda vazi savet da se nista ne objavljuje pre podnosenja aplikacije.

http://www.iusmentis.com/patents/priorart/

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What can be prior art

Any publication, in any form, in principle qualifies as prior art. Often earlier patents and scientific publications are used, because those are the easiest to find. But also textbooks, newspapers, lectures, demonstrations and exhibitions and any other disclosure can be used. Of course the proof of what was demonstrated or exhibited can be complicated.

Any publication

While earlier patents and published patent applications are most often cited by patent offices, any document from any source can in fact be used as prior art. It does not matter in which language the document is written, in how many copies it was made available, or whether any copies where in fact bought or read by third parties. The only thing that matters is that the document was available to the public before the critical date. A single copy of a Ph.D. thesis available in a university library counts as prior art, as would an article in the Irkutsk Daily Gazette.

Also, the intended audience for the publication is mostly irrelevant. Whether an invention is described in a a highly technical electrical engineer's journal, or in a junior high school textbook, does not matter. The textbook counts as prior art just like the journal, if both were published before the filing date of the patent application.

Any material available to the public

Something counts as prior art only if it is available to the public. It is irrelevant whether the public in fact accessed the document, or how easy it was to find the document. For instance, a paper might be published in a journal with a very small circulation, or a book might be present in the library without being mentioned in the catalog. People might give lectures and distribute handouts at a conference that costs several thousand dollars per day to attend. All these instances constitute prior art, as long as a member of the public could gain access to it without violating a secrecy obligation or doing something illegal (such as breaking into an inventor's private library).

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^{04.08.2010. u 16:25 - pre 167 meseci}

Čekaj, a šta ako patentiram nešto u jednoj zemlji? Kako to onda naknadno patentiram u drugim zemljama?

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^{04.08.2010. u 16:36 - pre 167 meseci}

Tako sto se pozoves na medjunarodni prioritet - a i za to imas ograniceno vreme.

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