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icon Panasonic AG-DVC62 mini dv – ima li ova kamera “pravi” 16:9 i koji je od ponudjenih?18.05.2009. u 16:34 - pre 165 meseci
Panasonic AG-DVC62 mini dv – ima li ova kamera “pravi” 16:9 i koji je od ponudjenih.

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Ovo pise u upustvu

NORMAL
Images are recorded with a standard 4:3 aspect ratio
Video materijal se snima u standardnom 4:3 formatu ( prevod i adaptacija by ZAK : ) )
Taj deo razumem...

LETTER BOX
Images are recorded with 16:9 aspect ratio. Black bands are recorded at the top and the bottom of the screen.
Video materijal se snima u 16:9 formatu. Crne trake se snimaju na gornjem i na donjem delu ekrana.

SQUEEZE
The camera images are squeezed horizontally and recorded. When images recorded in this mode are played back on a TV monitor that supports wide screen format, they are displayed in16:9 aspect ratio. The image quality may deteriorate when images recorded at the squeeze setting are played back!!!
Video materijal snimaljen u ovom modu je “zgnjecen” horizontalno. Kad se video materijal snimljen u ovom modu reprodukuje na tv-u koji podrzava wide screen format one su prikazane u 16:9 formatu. Kvalitet slike snimljen u ovom formatu moze biti unisten ( izgledati unisten )kad ga reprodukujete!!!

E sad... ocito je da ima dva 16:9 formata... Letter box je izgleda samo 4:3 sa snimljenim crnim trakama ali ni za sqeeze nisam siguran da je pravi... Dodatno situaciju komplikuje i ova recenica gore u kojoj pise da moze da unisti kvalitet snimka
Interesuje me da li ova kamera uopste ima 16:9 format ili samo izduzuje piksele ili sta vec radi pa ga imitira i da li to moze da mi dodje glave u smislu odradim nesto pa posle toga mogu da se “slikam sa materijalom” ?

NORMAL
Odradio capture u standard PAL

LETTER BOX

Odradio capture u wide screen PAL
SQUEEZE
odradio capture u wide screen PAL

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icon Re: Panasonic AG-DVC62 mini dv – ima li ova kamera “pravi” 16:9 i koji je od ponudjenih?21.05.2009. u 08:56 - pre 164 meseci
Je li moguce da panasonic gs500 ima “pravi 16:9 a ag-dvc62 ne?
 
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icon Re: Panasonic AG-DVC62 mini dv – ima li ova kamera “pravi” 16:9 i koji je od ponudjenih?21.05.2009. u 11:01 - pre 164 meseci
Ok ako tako stvari stoje, a izgleda da stoje, tj ova kamera nema “pravi” 16: sta da radim?
Ako zelim da napravim neki projekat u 16:9 koji od ova dva (letter box i squeeze) da izaberem i kako da capture-ujem premiereom, kao standard ili wide? Ne bih da mi na bilo koji nacin degradira sliku.
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icon Re: Panasonic AG-DVC62 mini dv – ima li ova kamera “pravi” 16:9 i koji je od ponudjenih?21.05.2009. u 18:25 - pre 164 meseci
Ovo sam dobio na jednom stranom forumu ali obzirom na moj engleski jezik nisam siguran da najbolje razumem sta su hteli da mi kazu
1. I could be wrong, but it sounds like the squeeze feature of your camera simply zooms and manipulates the pixels for an electronic form of anamorphic (proces where a wide video image tipically in a 16:9 wide screen format is compressed or squeezed horizontally to fit a more narrow display standard but expands to full size when played over a wide video display) recording. It does not sound like the native camera lens is set up for optical anamorphic recording, in which every pixel on the camera's CCD chips remain in use without electronic zooming or cropping.

Century Optics makes a 37mm anamorphic lens that can screw on most consumer minidv camcorders (especially Panasonics).* It will optically squeeze the image (making everything look skinny) while making use of every pixel in the camera's imaging chips. Then, once the footage is captured, you simply flag it to widescreen 16:9 (Premiere's DV widescreen preset).

The lens ain't cheap, though. I think you can get it at www.bhphotovideo.com

Ultimately, you will just have to shoot some sample footage on your camcorder in the squeeze mode and see how it looks on a widescreen monitor. But do not record letterbox, because it will just add black bars to a 4:3 recording, and Premeire's widescreen preset will stretch it further with the recorded black bars still in the picture.

*EDIT: I just did a search on your particular camcorder model, and I don't think it will permit an anamorphic lens to be mounted. Much of what I wrote above may not be all that helpful to you, although others reading this thread might find the info useful.
it seems like "sqeeze" mode is the normal miniDV widescreen mode found on most DVavi cams. it uses all the pixels but in non-square fashion. so the image is recorded at 720x576 but translated to 16/9 square pixels it's 1024/576.

most editors should have a project setting for DVavi widescreen (PAL).

in using that mode on other DVavi cams i've not run across any "deteriorated images".

here's all the manual i found for that cam says.
Quote:
16:9 Wide Recording
The aspect ratio can be set to either 4:3 or
16:9 to accommodate wide-image recording.
In 16:9 recording, you can select either
letterbox or squeeze mode,
giving you more possibilities in
downstream editing
and playback.
2. it seems like "sqeeze" mode is the normal miniDV widescreen mode found on most DVavi cams. it uses all the pixels but in non-square fashion. so the image is recorded at 720x576 but translated to 16/9 square pixels it's 1024/576.

most editors should have a project setting for DVavi widescreen (PAL).

in using that mode on other DVavi cams i've not run across any "deteriorated images".

here's all the manual i found for that cam says.
Mozete sve to naci ovde http://forum.videohelp.com/topic368367.html
P.S nadam se da nije protiv pravila foruma postavljati linkove drugih foruma ako jeste izvinjavam se
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