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icon Re: Restart racunara05.03.2009. u 17:55 - pre 183 meseci
Siguran sam da sam dobro ocistio. A sto se tice postavljanja, valjda je dobro. Sve je na svom mjestu kao i prije (osim prasine, mozda je postao ovisan), nigde nista nije kocilo pri vracanju, nista se ne mrda, a i kad se postavi hladnjak u onaj plasticni okvir oko procesora nema bas nekog prostora za mrdanje. Nego ta brzina fena, je li to ok?
 
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icon Re: Restart racunara05.03.2009. u 18:20 - pre 183 meseci
Koji je hladnjak u pitanju? Da li je Intelov ili neki drugi? Da li je nesto podeseno u BIOS-u sto se tice RPM?
 
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icon Re: Restart racunara05.03.2009. u 19:52 - pre 183 meseci
Sto se tice RPM-a, sad sam bio u BIOS-u, ali nisam nigde nasao mogucnost da se podesava. Mozda i ima ali ja ga ne vidim (pretpostavio sam negde pod CPU Configuration) BIOS nije flesovan nikako; star je 4 godine. Hladnjak jeste Intelov, na etiketi pise:
C91249-002
N 5227D N2
F08A-1288S2 01 AC1
DC 12V 0,13A
NIDEC CORP
ako to ista znaci.
Prikačeni fajlovi
 
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icon Re: Restart racunara05.03.2009. u 20:38 - pre 183 meseci
Da li mozes da pipnes hladnjak da vidis da li je topao na dodir. 2600RPM je neka normalna brzina gde je jos sve podnosljivo tiho sto se tice tih Intel-ovih hladnjaka. Ne znam tacno specifikacije tih ventilatora, ali mislim da moze brze (ali i glasnije). Sto se tice opcija u BIOSu ti mnogo bolje mozes da ih istrazis nego ja jer nemam tvoju plocu i ne drzim te stvari u glavi :) To obicno ima u Power meniju kod Asus-ovih ploca.
 
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icon Re: Restart racunara05.03.2009. u 21:33 - pre 183 meseci
Bio si u pravu.
Cim sam pipnuo hladnjak i video da je hladan, znao sam da ga nisam dobro postavio. I nisam. Jedan od ona cetiri stifta u coskovima nije kliknuo kako treba. Tako ti je kad biolog cacka po racunaru.
Ali sada je sve ok. Temperatura je 49-50 stepeni.
Znaci trebalo mu je samo ciscenje.
Hvala na strpljenju!
 
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icon Re: Restart racunara05.03.2009. u 21:54 - pre 183 meseci
Nista. Vazno je da je problem na kraju ipak resen.
 
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icon Re: Restart racunara14.03.2009. u 20:59 - pre 183 meseci
Da javim da je problem resen. Bila je u pitanju satelitska kartica sky star 2 . Posle kada su je izvadili radio mi je racunar normalno. Hvala svima na pomoci. Pozdrav

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icon Re: Restart racunara14.03.2009. u 23:44 - pre 183 meseci
Da si napisao da imas Sky Star 2 kad sam na prvoj stranici trazio hardverske specifikacije tvoje masine (mozda sam trebao sve da dalje da insistiram na svim komponentama), i mi ovde (barem ja) bi savetovali da je izvadis kao deo dijagnostike. Postoji bar 2-3 teme gde sam to savetovao Mislim da tema moze posluziti i drugima pa ne vidim razlog za zakljucavanje.
 
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icon Re: Restart racunara17.03.2009. u 12:06 - pre 183 meseci
Da li moze neko da pomogne? Moj problem se sastoji u tome sto kad pokrenem PES06 racunar mi se resetuje.Skoro je izvrsen update biosa pa se desava jos jedan problem, da neki put pocne da koci sa ucestanoscu otprilike 2 puta u minutu od po par sekundi,reinstaliram ga i radi 10-tak dana i opet tako.Da li neko zna sta da radim?
 
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icon Re: Restart racunara17.03.2009. u 20:47 - pre 183 meseci
Napisi hardverske specifikacije racunara.
 
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icon Re: Restart racunara17.03.2009. u 22:19 - pre 183 meseci
Konfiguracija je sledeca:
CPU Type DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2100 MHz (10.5 x 200) 4000+
Motherboard Name MSI K9N Neo v2/v3 (MS-7369) (3 PCI, 2 PCI-E x1, 1 PCI-E x16, 4 DDR2 DIMM, Audio, LAN)
Motherboard Chipset nVIDIA nForce 560, AMD Hammer
System Memory 1024 MB (DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM)
DIMM1: Kingston 99U5316-028.A00LF 1 GB DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM (6-6-6-18 @ 400 MHz) (5-5-5-15 @ 333 MHz) (4-4-4-12 @ 266 MHz)
 
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icon Re: Restart racunara17.03.2009. u 22:21 - pre 183 meseci
I graficka:
Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT (512 MB)
 
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icon Re: Restart racunara18.03.2009. u 13:04 - pre 182 meseci
Ploca je inace V3. Kako si update-ovao BIOS i zbog cega? Koje je napajanje? Ima li jos neka PCI kartica?
 
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icon Re: Restart racunara18.03.2009. u 19:50 - pre 182 meseci
Procitati ovu topovanu temu sto se tice komunikacije preko privatnih poruka. Citiram privatnu poruku koja ima veze sa temom koju sam linkovao:

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niksic: BIOS su updejtovali u servisu firme u kojoj je kupljen.Radjen je zbog toga sto nije hteo da instalira Vistu,mada ni sad nece zbog toga sto je CD-ROM SATA tipa kako su oni rekli.Napajanje je: FRONTIER Switching Power Supply MODEL:LC-B400AX
Nema nijedna kartica na PCI slotu.


 
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icon Re: Restart racunara18.03.2009. u 20:30 - pre 182 meseci
Kada se traze hardverske specifikacije racunara tu se misli na sav hardver u kucistu. Problemi nastaju kad se ne nabroji SAV HARDVER i kad onaj koji pomaze (moja malenkost) mora da cupa informacije od davalaca informacija i pored jasnog zahteva da se nabroji SAV HARDVER. Inace je to osnovna stvar cim postoji problem sa racunarom koji moze biti vezan za neko parce hardvera.

Kada neko ko se mnogo ne razume u racunare ima problema sa racunarom, on prvo dodje u firmu koja prodaje hardver ili okrene telefon firme da se zali na svoje probleme, komercijala mu kaze da donese masinu na servis (naravno kuciste sa sve komponentama). Taj neko tj. vlasnik racunara, posle donese masinu na servis, serviser prima kuciste sa sve komponentama na servis, i obavezno prvo pita vlasnika racunara da mu opise probleme sa kojima se susretao tokom koriscenja racunara, zapise ih na prijemnicu, i na osnovu tako napisanog objasnjenja vlasnika racunara pocinje se sa posle dijagnostikom. Ali serviser koji primi masinu na servis tada ima uvid u sav hardver u kucistu cim ga otvori jer je kuciste tu na licu mesta a ne negde u Zanzibaru. Mi ovde, kad vi pisete o svojim problemima, nemamo uvid u celokupnu situaciju sto se tice unutrasnjosti vaseg kucista kao taj serviser u servisu koji primi kuciste na servis, i zato je osnovna stvar da nabrojite sve u kucistu pre nego sto pocnemo da pomazemo savetima da bi nam olaksali posao, a ne da nas terate da pogadjamo sta je u kucistu i da gledamo u pasulj umesto da dajemo smislene savete. Sad nam od tvojih komponenti fali jos samo hard disk/hard diskovi :)

Kazes da su ti rekli ti iz servisa da je BIOS update-ovan zbog toga sto Vista nece da se instalira? Sad kazu da ne moze zbog toga sto je CD-ROM SATA tipa? Kog je tipa hard i koji je uopste hard? :) Napajanje je inace lose, ali ne mora da znaci da je ono problem.

Napisao si takodje da racunar ponekad koci. U kojim uslovima koci? Kad nesto radis (igras igrice) ili sam od sebe? Kocenje moze imati veze sa mnogo cime ukljucujuci pregrevanje neke komponente, hardverskim konfliktima, neispravnosti odredjenih komponenata (vise njih) virusima itd.

Inace pogledaj pocetak teme kako da konfigurises Windows da se racunar ne restartuje posle plavih ekrana ako su restarti uzrokovani plavim ekranima.

[Ovu poruku je menjao Binary Mind dana 18.03.2009. u 21:43 GMT+1]
 
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icon Re: Restart racunara18.03.2009. u 23:15 - pre 182 meseci
Ja se clanovima foruma izvinjavam zbog moje nekolegijalnosti.A Binary Mind-u zahvaljujem na ulozenom trudu utrosenom vremenu i razumevanju za moje ne namerne greske i nepotpune informacije o konfiguraciji.Ovo su sada nadam se dovoljno detaljni podaci o konfiguraciji.Racunar pocne da koci bilo da radim nesto ili ne "kad mu padne na pamet"

Computer:
Computer Type ACPI Multiprocessor PC
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional
OS Service Pack Service Pack 2
Internet Explorer 6.0.2900.2180 (IE 6.0 SP2)
DirectX 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)
Computer Name
User Name
Logon Domain
Date / Time 2009-03-18 / 23:13

Motherboard:
CPU Type DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2100 MHz (10.5 x 200) 4000+
Motherboard Name MSI K9N Neo v2/v3 (MS-7369) (3 PCI, 2 PCI-E x1, 1 PCI-E x16, 4 DDR2 DIMM, Audio, LAN)
Motherboard Chipset nVIDIA nForce 560, AMD Hammer
System Memory 1024 MB (DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM)
DIMM1: Kingston 99U5316-028.A00LF 1 GB DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM (6-6-6-18 @ 400 MHz) (5-5-5-15 @ 333 MHz) (4-4-4-12 @ 266 MHz)
BIOS Type AMI (01/06/09)
Communication Port Communications Port (COM1)

Display:
Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT (512 MB)
3D Accelerator nVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT
Monitor Samsung SyncMaster 720N [17" LCD] (H9GP901220)

Multimedia:
Audio Adapter Realtek ALC888/1200 @ nVIDIA MCP65 - High Definition Audio Controller

Storage:
IDE Controller Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
IDE Controller Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Storage Controller A1NEPUCB IDE Controller
Floppy Drive Floppy disk drive
Disk Drive MAXTOR STM3250310AS (250 GB, 7200 RPM, SATA-II)
Optical Drive LT3194C ZTX012X SCSI CdRom Device
Optical Drive Optiarc DVD RW AD-7200S (DVD+R9:8x, DVD-R9:12x, DVD+RW:20x/8x, DVD-RW:20x/6x, DVD-RAM:12x, DVD-ROM:16x, CD:48x/32x/48x DVD+RW/DVD-RW/DVD-RAM)
SMART Hard Disks Status OK

Partitions:
C: (NTFS) 39997 MB (23594 MB free)
D: (NTFS) 99998 MB (10597 MB free)
E: (NTFS) 98468 MB (20926 MB free)
Total Size 232.9 GB (53.8 GB free)

Input:
Keyboard Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse Microsoft PS/2 Mouse

Network:
Primary IP Address
Primary MAC Address
Network Adapter Realtek RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (10.4.2.182)

Peripherals:
Printer Send To OneNote 2007
USB1 Controller nVIDIA MCP65 - OHCI USB 1.1 Controller
USB2 Controller nVIDIA MCP65 - EHCI USB 2.0 Controller

DMI:
DMI BIOS Vendor American Megatrends Inc.
DMI BIOS Version V2.7
DMI System Manufacturer MSI
DMI System Product MS-7369
DMI System Version 1.0
DMI System Serial Number To Be Filled By O.E.M.
DMI Motherboard Manufacturer MSI
DMI Motherboard Product MS-7369
DMI Motherboard Version 1.0
DMI Motherboard Serial Number To be filled by O.E.M.
DMI Chassis Manufacturer To Be Filled By O.E.M.
DMI Chassis Version To Be Filled By O.E.M.
DMI Chassis Serial Number To Be Filled By O.E.M.
DMI Chassis Asset Tag To Be Filled By O.E.M.
DMI Chassis Type Desktop Case
DMI Total / Free Memory Sockets 4 / 3


--------[ Computer Name ]-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Computer Comment Logical
NetBIOS Name Logical
DNS Host Name Logical
DNS Domain Name Logical
Fully Qualified DNS Name Logical
NetBIOS Name Physical
DNS Host Name Physical
DNS Domain Name Physical
Fully Qualified DNS Name Physical


--------[ DMI ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[ BIOS ]

BIOS Properties:
Vendor American Megatrends Inc.
Version V2.7
Release Date 01/06/2009
Size 1024 KB
Boot Devices Floppy Disk, Hard Disk, CD-ROM, ATAPI ZIP, LS-120
Capabilities Flash BIOS, Shadow BIOS, Selectable Boot, EDD, BBS
Supported Standards DMI, APM, ACPI, ESCD, PnP
Expansion Capabilities ISA, PCI, USB

[ System ]

System Properties:
Manufacturer MSI
Product MS-7369
Version 1.0
Serial Number To Be Filled By O.E.M.
SKU# To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Family To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Wake-Up Type Power Switch

[ Motherboard ]

Motherboard Properties:
Manufacturer MSI
Product MS-7369
Version 1.0
Serial Number To be filled by O.E.M.

[ Chassis ]

Chassis Properties:
Manufacturer To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Version To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Serial Number To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Asset Tag To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Chassis Type Desktop Case
Boot-Up State Safe
Power Supply State Safe
Thermal State Safe
Security Status None

[ Memory Controller ]

Memory Controller Properties:
Error Detection Method 64-bit ECC
Error Correction None
Supported Memory Interleave 1-Way
Current Memory Interleave 1-Way
Supported Memory Speeds 70ns, 60ns, 50ns
Supported Memory Types DIMM, SDRAM
Supported Memory Voltages 3.3V
Maximum Memory Module Size 1024 MB
Memory Slots 4

[ Processors / AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4000+ ]

Processor Properties:
Manufacturer AMD
Version AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4000+
Serial Number To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Asset Tag To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Part Number To Be Filled By O.E.M.
External Clock 200 MHz
Current Clock 2101 MHz
Type Central Processor
Voltage 1.5 V
Status Enabled
Socket Designation CPU 1
HTT / CMP Units 0 / 2

[ Caches / L1-Cache ]

Cache Properties:
Type Internal
Status Enabled
Operational Mode Varies with Memory Address
Associativity 4-way Set-Associative
Maximum Size 256 KB
Installed Size 256 KB
Supported SRAM Type Pipeline Burst
Current SRAM Type Pipeline Burst
Error Correction Single-bit ECC
Socket Designation L1-Cache

[ Caches / L2-Cache ]

Cache Properties:
Type Internal
Status Enabled
Operational Mode Varies with Memory Address
Associativity 4-way Set-Associative
Maximum Size 1024 KB
Installed Size 1024 KB
Supported SRAM Type Pipeline Burst
Current SRAM Type Pipeline Burst
Error Correction Single-bit ECC
Socket Designation L2-Cache

[ Caches / L3-Cache ]

Cache Properties:
Type Internal
Status Disabled
Maximum Size 0 KB
Installed Size 0 KB
Socket Designation L3-Cache

[ Memory Modules / DIMM0 ]

Memory Module Properties:
Socket Designation DIMM0
Type ECC, DIMM
Speed 160 ns
Installed Size 1024 MB
Enabled Size 1024 MB

[ Memory Modules / DIMM1 ]

Memory Module Properties:
Socket Designation DIMM1
Speed 162 ns
Installed Size Not Installed
Enabled Size Not Installed

[ Memory Modules / DIMM2 ]

Memory Module Properties:
Socket Designation DIMM2
Speed 164 ns
Installed Size Not Installed
Enabled Size Not Installed

[ Memory Modules / DIMM3 ]

Memory Module Properties:
Socket Designation DIMM3
Speed 166 ns
Installed Size Not Installed
Enabled Size Not Installed

[ Memory Devices / DIMM0 ]

Memory Device Properties:
Form Factor DIMM
Type DDR2
Type Detail Synchronous
Size 1024 MB
Total Width 64-bit
Data Width 72-bit
Device Locator DIMM0
Bank Locator BANK0
Manufacturer Manufacturer0
Serial Number SerNum0
Asset Tag AssetTagNum0
Part Number PartNum0

[ Memory Devices / DIMM1 ]

Memory Device Properties:
Form Factor DIMM
Device Locator DIMM1
Bank Locator BANK1
Manufacturer Manufacturer1
Serial Number SerNum1
Asset Tag AssetTagNum1
Part Number PartNum1

[ Memory Devices / DIMM2 ]

Memory Device Properties:
Form Factor DIMM
Device Locator DIMM2
Bank Locator BANK2
Manufacturer Manufacturer2
Serial Number SerNum2
Asset Tag AssetTagNum2
Part Number PartNum2

[ Memory Devices / DIMM3 ]

Memory Device Properties:
Form Factor DIMM
Device Locator DIMM3
Bank Locator BANK3
Manufacturer Manufacturer3
Serial Number SerNum3
Asset Tag AssetTagNum3
Part Number PartNum3

[ System Slots / PCIE ]

System Slot Properties:
Slot Designation PCIE
Type PCI-E x1
Usage In Use
Data Bus Width 32-bit
Length Short

[ System Slots / PCI1 ]

System Slot Properties:
Slot Designation PCI1
Type PCI
Usage Empty
Data Bus Width 32-bit
Length Short

[ System Slots / PCI2 ]

System Slot Properties:
Slot Designation PCI2
Type PCI
Usage Empty
Data Bus Width 32-bit
Length Short

[ System Slots / PCI3 ]

System Slot Properties:
Slot Designation PCI3
Type PCI
Usage Empty
Data Bus Width 32-bit
Length Short

[ Port Connectors / PS2Mouse ]

Port Connector Properties:
Port Type Mouse Port
Internal Reference Designator J1A1
Internal Connector Type None
External Reference Designator PS2Mouse
External Connector Type PS/2

[ Port Connectors / Keyboard ]

Port Connector Properties:
Port Type Keyboard Port
Internal Reference Designator J1A1
Internal Connector Type None
External Reference Designator Keyboard
External Connector Type PS/2

[ Port Connectors / USB1 ]

Port Connector Properties:
Port Type USB
Internal Reference Designator J2A2
Internal Connector Type None
External Reference Designator USB1
External Connector Type USB

[ Port Connectors / USB2 ]

Port Connector Properties:
Port Type USB
Internal Reference Designator J2A2
Internal Connector Type None
External Reference Designator USB2
External Connector Type USB

[ Port Connectors / LPT 1 ]

Port Connector Properties:
Port Type Parallel Port ECP/EPP
Internal Reference Designator J4A1
Internal Connector Type None
External Reference Designator LPT 1
External Connector Type DB-25 pin male

[ Port Connectors / COM A ]

Port Connector Properties:
Port Type Serial Port 16550A Compatible
Internal Reference Designator J2A1
Internal Connector Type None
External Reference Designator COM A
External Connector Type DB-9 pin male

[ Port Connectors / Audio Mic In ]

Port Connector Properties:
Port Type Audio Port
Internal Reference Designator J6A1
Internal Connector Type None
External Reference Designator Audio Mic In
External Connector Type Mini-jack (headphones)

[ Port Connectors / Audio Line In ]

Port Connector Properties:
Port Type Audio Port
Internal Reference Designator J6A1
Internal Connector Type None
External Reference Designator Audio Line In
External Connector Type Mini-jack (headphones)

[ Port Connectors / J6B1 - AUX IN ]

Port Connector Properties:
Port Type Audio Port
Internal Reference Designator J6B1 - AUX IN
Internal Connector Type On-Board Sound Input from CD-ROM
External Connector Type None

[ Port Connectors / J6B2 - CDIN ]

Port Connector Properties:
Port Type Audio Port
Internal Reference Designator J6B2 - CDIN
Internal Connector Type On-Board Sound Input from CD-ROM
External Connector Type None

[ Port Connectors / J6J2 - PRI IDE ]

Port Connector Properties:
Internal Reference Designator J6J2 - PRI IDE
Internal Connector Type On-Board IDE
External Connector Type None

[ Port Connectors / J6J1 - SEC IDE ]

Port Connector Properties:
Internal Reference Designator J6J1 - SEC IDE
Internal Connector Type On-Board IDE
External Connector Type None

[ Port Connectors / J4J1 - FLOPPY ]

Port Connector Properties:
Internal Reference Designator J4J1 - FLOPPY
Internal Connector Type On-Board Floppy
External Connector Type None

[ Port Connectors / J9H1 - FRONT PNL ]

Port Connector Properties:
Internal Reference Designator J9H1 - FRONT PNL
Internal Connector Type 9 Pin Dual Inline (pin 10 cut)
External Connector Type None

[ Port Connectors / J1B1 - CHASSIS REAR FAN ]

Port Connector Properties:
Internal Reference Designator J1B1 - CHASSIS REAR FAN
External Connector Type None

[ Port Connectors / J2F1 - CPU FAN ]

Port Connector Properties:
Internal Reference Designator J2F1 - CPU FAN
External Connector Type None

[ Port Connectors / J8B4 - FRONT FAN ]

Port Connector Properties:
Internal Reference Designator J8B4 - FRONT FAN
External Connector Type None

[ Port Connectors / J9G2 - FNT USB ]

Port Connector Properties:
Internal Reference Designator J9G2 - FNT USB
External Connector Type None

[ Port Connectors / J6C3 - FP AUD ]

Port Connector Properties:
Internal Reference Designator J6C3 - FP AUD
External Connector Type None

[ Port Connectors / J9G1 - CONFIG ]

Port Connector Properties:
Internal Reference Designator J9G1 - CONFIG
External Connector Type None

[ Port Connectors / J8C1 - SCSI LED ]

Port Connector Properties:
Internal Reference Designator J8C1 - SCSI LED
External Connector Type None

[ Port Connectors / J9J2 - INTRUDER ]

Port Connector Properties:
Internal Reference Designator J9J2 - INTRUDER
External Connector Type None

[ Port Connectors / J9G4 - ITP ]

Port Connector Properties:
Internal Reference Designator J9G4 - ITP
External Connector Type None

[ Port Connectors / J2H1 - MAIN POWER ]

Port Connector Properties:
Internal Reference Designator J2H1 - MAIN POWER
External Connector Type None

[ On-Board Devices / To Be Filled By O.E.M. ]

On-Board Device Properties:
Description To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Type Video
Status Enabled

[ Miscellaneous ]

Miscellaneous:
OEM String To Be Filled By O.E.M.
System Configuration Option To Be Filled By O.E.M.
 
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icon Re: Restart racunara19.03.2009. u 14:01 - pre 182 meseci
SATA optika + SATA hard. Ne vidim razlog zasto vista ne bi mogla da se instalira na tu mashinu :) Napajanje opet nikakvog kvaliteta tako da velika sumnja ide na njega. Flashovali su BIOS posle cega se masina koci. Jedno pitanje: Da li se kocila pre flasha BIOSa? Drugo pitanje: Da li je instaliran AMD Dual Core Optimizer? U svakom slucaju ako je masina jos pod garancijom ne diraj nista sam, nego ponovo nosi u servis.
 
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icon Re: Restart racunara19.03.2009. u 15:26 - pre 182 meseci
Nije kocio pre updejtovanja BIOSA,a nije ni instaliran AMD Dual Core Optimizer.
 
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icon Re: Restart racunara19.03.2009. u 15:29 - pre 182 meseci
Instaliraj AMD Dual Core Optimizer i vidi kako ce masina da se ponasa posle toga sto se tice kocenja.
 
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icon Re: Restart racunara19.03.2009. u 17:34 - pre 182 meseci
Jel mozes da mi pomognes da nadjem (ako imas neki link sa kog mogu da skinem) AMD Dual Core Optimizer.
 
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