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icon Windows Vista Service Pack 104.02.2008. u 03:10 - pre 196 meseci
Izgleda da je "Dan D" danas, 04.02.2008. i da ćemo konačno ugledati finalnu verziju Vista SP1.
Vest je dobra za korisnike legalne verzije, a ostali neka obrate pažnju na deo citata ispisan crvenim slovima...
Za više detalja o tome šta je sve novo u SP1 - kliknite na plavi link u citatu

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If you have been waiting for Service Pack 1 for Windows Vista, well, you can now mark your calender. We just received word that Microsoft has scheduled Windows Vista Service Pack 1 for release to manufacturer (RTM) on Monday, February 4, 2008. The OEMs will also receive Windows Vista Service Pack 1 during that week.

Microsoft will be deploying Service Pack 1 in two "waves". Wave 0, which is the one released on February 4, will only include five languages - English, French, Spanish, German and Japanese. The second wave, Wave 1, is scheduled for release 1-2 weeks later, and will cover all 36 basic languages, including Chinese.

Microsoft claims Windows Vista SP1 will provide key improvements on the security, performance and reliability of Windows Vista by providing :

-All previously released updates since RTM
-Performance and reliability improvements in core scenarios such as file copy, network browsing, and improved response time to resume from sleep.
-Support for new types of hardware, and several emerging standards.
-There are improvements to the administration experience. One of the most important changes we’re making is that BitLocker now supports encrypting for multiple volumes.
Of course, Service Pack 1 will also disable two common methods of hacking Windows Vista, namely the OEM BIOS exploit and the Grace Timer exploit.

For more information, take a look at our article, What's New In Windows Vista Service Pack 1?



Još samo da sačekamo zvaničnu objavu od strane Microsofta...




Linkovi za download=> Zvanična MS lokacija za preuzimanje SP1


Microsoft Srbija zvanična podrška: Windows Vista SP1

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icon Re: Windows Vista Service Pack 104.02.2008. u 09:02 - pre 196 meseci
Jos nema nista ni na MSDN-u... mada dobro, dan u Sijetlu je tek poceo ;-)
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icon Re: Windows Vista Service Pack 104.02.2008. u 11:54 - pre 196 meseci
Pa ljudi još spavaju tamo...
Možda bude na Windows Update, kad se probude i popiju kafu...
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icon Re: Windows Vista Service Pack 104.02.2008. u 15:17 - pre 196 meseci
Izašo SP 1 ali još uvek se nemože preuzeti.

http://windowsvistablog.com/bl...-rtm-of-windows-vista-sp1.aspx
 
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icon Re: Windows Vista Service Pack 104.02.2008. u 15:24 - pre 196 meseci

Heh, izgleda ništa za krajnje korisnike do marta...

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We've been hearing rumors all morning that Microsoft would release Vista SP1 this week. Now, according to Reuters, Microsoft has just sent Vista SP1 to manufacturing. In the same presentation to investors, Steve Ballmer said that Microsoft has released Windows Server 2008 to manufacturing as well. However, the server software won't formally launch until February 27th. Now we're just waiting for the SP1 download link and/or Windows Update package. Twiddle, twiddle... ah hell, we'll just update you when we get it -- this could take a few days.

Update: Hands off the F5 key kids, Microsoft says SP1 won't be available to customers until March, starting with Microsoft Volume Licensing customers. Server 2008 will be available for purchase on March 1st.


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Hi, Mike Nash here from the Windows Product Management group at Microsoft. Today we are excited to announce that we have released Service Pack 1 for Windows Vista to manufacturing (RTM) for our first set of languages (English, French, Spanish, German and Japanese).

Service Pack 1 is a very important milestone because it addresses many of the key issues that our customers have identified with Windows Vista over the last year both, directly and through programs like the Customer Experience Improvement Program. With Service Pack 1, we have made great progress in performance, reliability and compatibility. One of the great things about my job is that I get to play with the latest builds of our products -- I've personally been running Windows Vista SP1 pretty exclusively for a few months and I've noticed that my systems run faster and more reliably than they did with the "Gold" release of Windows Vista.

When we first released Windows Vista last year, there were lots of customers who had great experiences, but some had issues finding applications that worked well on Windows Vista; others had problems finding the right device drivers for some of the hardware devices that they used. The reason for these issues is that in order to improve the reliability and security of Windows Vista, we made some important architectural changes to the system. While this caused some issues in the short term, in the long term we know that these investments will improve both the reliability and security of the customer experience on Windows. Check out this blog post about the first year of Windows Vista security to see how some of these changes are paying off.

The good news is that this last year has been a great year of progress for Windows Vista in terms of improving application and device compatibility. For example, 98 out of the top-selling 100 applications have versions available for Windows Vista. And through the great work of our hardware partners, we now have 78,000 devices and components supported by Windows Update, up from about 34,000 in November 2006. As a result, we have licensed over 100 million copies of Windows Vista to date.

Service Pack 1 brings new improvements that are based on feedback we heard from our customers. It further improves the reliability and performance of Windows Vista. The information we collect thanks to tools like the Customer Experience Improvement Program, Online Crash Analysis, and Windows Error Reporting help us learn about where and when customers are having issues with Windows Vista and the applications that run on it. Since these issues have a direct impact on our customers' experiences, we've invested time and energy to make this better. While Windows Vista Service Pack 1 is an important milestone, we will continue to invest in the continuous improvement process.

SP1 also includes changes focused on improving the performance of Windows Vista in areas that impact the customer experience the most. For instance, with SP1, copying or moving files around your PC, your home network or your corporate network should now be much faster -- up to 50% faster in some scenarios (according to our internal tests). In addition, on many kinds of hardware, resuming a Windows Vista-based PC from sleep is faster on Service Pack 1.

The key learning over the last year is that when we change the operating system, it takes time to let the ecosystem make sure that the hardware and software that they build works well with Windows Vista. So as we release Windows Vista SP1 to manufacturing, we are going to be thoughtful about when and how it gets distributed.

With today's RTM of SP1, a number of processes kick off as we deliver the update to customers. Our OEM partners will get SP1 and start producing new PCs running Windows Vista with SP1 pre-installed. We will also start the manufacturing process for retail product of Windows Vista with SP1. Both will be available in stores for new Windows Vista customers in the coming months. Today we also start the process to manufacture DVDs for our enterprise customers who get our software via our Volume Licensing program.

As we update our customers to SP1, we want everyone to have a great install experience. We are going to stage our rollout of SP1 for current Windows Vista users to be approximately concurrent with the availability of Windows Vista SP1 on new PCs and in stores. There are a couple of reasons for this. Our beta testing identified an issue with a small set of device drivers. These drivers do not follow our guidelines for driver installation and as a result, some beta participants who were using Windows Vista and updated to Service Pack 1 reported issues with these devices. Because the issue was with the way the drivers were installed and not the drivers themselves, the solution was simply to reinstall the drivers. While this worked fine for our more technical beta testers, we want to deliver a better experience for customers as we make the update broadly available.

While we know that most customers who update from Windows Vista to SP1 will NOT be affected, our approach is to improve the experience for all our customers. To do this, we will begin making SP1 available through Windows Update in mid-March, giving us time to work with some of our hardware partners to make adjustments to the installation process for the affected drivers. As SP1 gets delivered through Windows Update, we will only offer it to PCs that we detect don't have any of the affected device drivers installed. We're taking the next month or so to continue our work of identifying as many of these devices as possible.

Here's the timing for SP1 availability for current Windows Vista users:

In mid-March, we will release Windows Vista SP1 to Windows Update (in English, French, Spanish, German and Japanese) and to the download center on microsoft.com. Customers who visit Windows Update can choose to install Service Pack 1. If Windows Update determines that the system has one of the drivers we know to be problematic, then Windows Update will not offer SP1. Since we know that some customers may want to update to SP1 anyhow, the download center will allow anyone who wants to install SP1 to do so.
In mid-April, we will begin delivering Windows Vista SP1 to Windows Vista customers who have chosen to have updates downloaded automatically. That said, any system that Windows Update determines has a driver known to not update successfully will not get SP1 automatically. As updates for these drivers become available, they will be installed automatically by Windows Update, which will unblock these systems from getting Service Pack 1. The result is that more and more systems will automatically get SP1, but only when we are confident they will have a good experience.
The remaining languages will RTM in April.
New customers should feel great about buying Windows Vista today, knowing that when everything is ready, SP1 will be available to them via Windows Update. In the meantime, remember that you can take advantage of the benefits of Windows Vista (including many improvements delivered via Windows Update) even without Service Pack 1.


This is an important milestone for our current and future Windows Vista customers around the world. I want to take a minute to thank our customers for their feedback on Windows Vista and the beta of Service Pack 1. I also want to thank our hardware and software partners for their continued efforts to deliver the best experiences on Windows Vista.

-Mike


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Earlier this morning, Microsoft announced that Windows Vista Service Pack 1 has concluded its beta testing and has been released to manufacturing. So, does that mean you can install it today? Nope. From the official announcement:

Here’s the timing for SP1 availability for current Windows Vista users:

In mid-March, we will release Windows Vista SP1 to Windows Update (in English, French, Spanish, German and Japanese) and to the download center on microsoft.com. Customers who visit Windows Update can choose to install Service Pack 1. If Windows Update determines that the system has one of the drivers we know to be problematic, then Windows Update will not offer SP1. Since we know that some customers may want to update to SP1 anyhow, the download center will allow anyone who wants to install SP1 to do so.
In mid-April, we will begin delivering Windows Vista SP1 to Windows Vista customers who have chosen to have updates downloaded automatically. That said, any system that Windows Update determines has a driver known to not update successfully will not get SP1 automatically. As updates for these drivers become available, they will be installed automatically by Windows Update, which will unblock these systems from getting Service Pack 1. The result is that more and more systems will automatically get SP1, but only when we are confident they will have a good experience.
The remaining languages will RTM in April.
I’ve been running various release candidates on x86 and x64 machines for several months now and have encountered very few problems. I’ll get the RTM code this week and will have a full report then.



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icon Re: Windows Vista Service Pack 104.02.2008. u 18:07 - pre 196 meseci
E nek su sredili onaj famozni bug sa kopiranjem i prebacivanjem fajlova pa nek nosi djavo sve. Jos samo sacekati mart pa da testiramo i to cudo kad ga vec hvale toliko.
Tratinčice mala, a-sa.
 
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icon Re: Windows Vista Service Pack 104.02.2008. u 18:43 - pre 196 meseci
Windows Server 2008 je izasao danas na MSDN-u:

en_windows_server_2008_datacenter_enterprise_standard_x64_dvd_X14-26714.iso ISO-9660 DVD Image
File Size: 2542 MB

Vista SP1 nije.

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icon Re: Windows Vista Service Pack 104.02.2008. u 23:59 - pre 196 meseci
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Performance and reliability improvements in core scenarios such as file copy, network browsing

Prava stvar za SP1. Šta li su samo radili i o čemu mislili kad su izdavali RTM. To ne da nije za SP ili RTM nego nije ni za alfa verziju! Primetili su da "malo" sporije kopira tek kad su ga izdali...
 
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icon Re: Windows Vista Service Pack 105.02.2008. u 06:28 - pre 196 meseci
Jel su oni izbacili novi sistem? :)

Stand-alone installation
x86-based: 2515 MB to 5445 MB
x64-based: 4105 MB to 7840 MB

Windows Update
x86-based: 1170 MB
x64-based: 1505 MB

Integrated installation
15 GB

Improves OS deployment by enabling 64-bit versions of Windows Vista to be installed from a 32-bit OS. This will allow IT professionals to maintain
just a single WinPE image.
Ajde neko ko razume ovo nek mi objasni :)

Gle sad u Noticed SP1 Changes ima ovo:

Standalone Packag (PCs without internet access, System administrators) About 450 MB (5 Language package), About 550 MB (Full 36 language package)
Windows Update (Most home users, Many business customers) About 65 MB

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icon Re: Windows Vista Service Pack 105.02.2008. u 13:19 - pre 196 meseci
Instalirao sam SP1 beta. Radi lepo... Kolko ce da traje? Neznam! I tako moram da je instaliram ponovo zbog 2x500 Gb Hdd.
Vista je 64 Ultimate RTM Build 6001...
 
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icon Re: Windows Vista Service Pack 105.02.2008. u 15:43 - pre 196 meseci
Ne vidim ni jedan razlog zasto bi bilo sta morao da instaliras ponovo samo zato sto dodajes ili menjas diskove :)
 
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icon Re: Windows Vista Service Pack 105.02.2008. u 23:18 - pre 196 meseci
Ako Sp1 Finalna verzija bude bolja od ove beta, onda stvarno vredi potruditi se malo oko instalacije.
Sa SP1 beta sam dobio:
- prava virtualizacija je proradila (ripovanje filmova, crysis, testovi u everestu i Vista ocena su bolji)
- kopiranje, premeštanje fajlova (muzike, Filmova,šrinkovanje DVD-a) je brže i ostali programi koji u tom trenutku
rade su stabilniji...
- nema više glupih grešaka koje podsećaju na XP
- defragmentacija diskova radi po izboru i efikasnije...
- srpska Vista radi perfektno (mada sam mislio da će biti problema sa tim apdeitom)
- internet radi brže, vidi se lepo kada skidam omotnice sa cdcovercc, ili kad se skidaju veliki fajlovi od 150 Mb

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icon Re: Windows Vista Service Pack 106.02.2008. u 11:37 - pre 196 meseci
Vista SP1 ima novo jezgro (kernel) između ostalog... što i nije baš "samo kozmetička promena"
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One of the “big” features discussed in early speculation of Windows Vista SP1 was the kernel upgrade, which was supposed to bring the operating system into line with the Longhorn kernel used in Windows Server 2008. And yet with Vista SP1 going RTM, there hasn't been so much as a peep from Microsoft about the mooted kernel update. Has it happened?

Well the answer is yes it has, and presumably the main reason for Microsoft’s silence on the subject is that as they’re keen to promote the improvements and enhancements to Vista, rather than placing emphasis on a kernel upgrade, which some people might see as a risk of newly-introduced instability.


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icon Re: Windows Vista Service Pack 106.02.2008. u 12:44 - pre 196 meseci
SP1 All Language Pack beta za instalaciju bez internet veze je velik 878 Mb (sa ADSL512 oko 4 sata skidanja)
- Instalacija traje oko 40 minuta:
- 20 minuta radi rezervnu kopiju Vista RTM
- 20 minuta je instalacija nove Viste SP1
- Inaće instalacija RTM Viste Ultimate 64 traje 7 minute (neboli)....
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icon Re: Windows Vista Service Pack 106.02.2008. u 16:37 - pre 196 meseci
Ako neko zeli da instalira SP1 preporucujem da uradi sledece:

1.) Skinuti ova tri patch-a (KB937287, KB938371 i Windows Vista Service Pack 1 x86 KB936330).

2.) Zatim pokrenuti "coman prompt" kao administrator i izvrsiti sledece naredbe po redu kako su navedene. Predlazem da posle instalacije svakog patch-a i naravno SP1 uradite restart sistema.

start /w %SystemRoot%\system32\pkgmgr.exe /ip /m:C:\VistaSP1\windows6.0-kb937287-x86_2039fc9d2475d8886e112fdb3a7a5778f9ab7302.cab /s:C:\VistaSP1\windows6.0-kb937287-x86_2039fc9d2475d8886e112fdb3a7a5778f9ab7302.cab /norestart

start /w %SystemRoot%\system32\pkgmgr.exe /ip /m:C:\VistaSP1\windows6.0-kb938371-x86_0e58dcb38724bbfa30e9c55290c63bb824635f08.cab /s:C:\VistaSP1\windows6.0-kb938371-x86_0e58dcb38724bbfa30e9c55290c63bb824635f08.cab /norestart

start /w %SystemRoot%\system32\pkgmgr.exe /ip /m:C:\VistaSP1\windows6.0-kb936330-x86_b3bd75011971986894b5fa63a08a36c05ccdd874.cab /s:C:\VistaSP1\windows6.0-kb936330-x86_b3bd75011971986894b5fa63a08a36c05ccdd874.cab /norestart

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icon Re: Windows Vista Service Pack 106.02.2008. u 22:19 - pre 196 meseci
Zbog čega se to preporučuje? Pošto ne čitamo svi nemački.
 
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icon Re: Windows Vista Service Pack 106.02.2008. u 23:16 - pre 196 meseci
to je moj mali prilog za sve ljude koji ne mogu da docekaju mart mesec. za sada je koliko ja znam i vidim to jedina mogucnost za instalaciju SP1.
 
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icon Re: Windows Vista Service Pack 107.02.2008. u 06:51 - pre 196 meseci
Ovo izgleda nije Final :P

Installation for Vista Ultimate 32-bit Windows Update as described above. Winver zeigt anschließend "Microsoft Windows Version 6.0 (Build 6001: Service Pack 1)" an. Winver then displays "Microsoft Windows Version 6.0 (Build 6001 Service Pack 1)." In der Registry finde ich unter CurrentVersion: 6.0.6001 SP1 Build 6001. In the registry, I think under Current Version: 6.0.6001 SP1 Build 6001st Als Hardwareabstraktionsebene wird Version = "6.0.6001.18000" angezeigt. As a hardware abstraction layer is version = "6.0.6001.18000." BuildLab = 6001.longhorn_rtm.080118-1840, BuilLabEx = 6001.18000.x86fre.longhorn_rtm.080118-1840. BuildLab = 6001.longhorn_rtm.080118-1840, BuilLabEx = 6001.18000.x86fre.longhorn_rtm.080118-1840. Irgendwelche Hinweise auf SP 1 RC Refresh 2 oder ähnlich tauchen in der Registry an keiner Stelle auf. Any references to SP 1 or 2 RC Refresh similar dive in the registry at no point.

Ovo je kao neki prevod sa onog nemackog sajta putem google.com :)

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icon Re: Windows Vista Service Pack 107.02.2008. u 07:19 - pre 196 meseci
Bolje da svi sačekaju tih mesec dana ili koliko je ostalo do izlaska verzije "za narod".
 
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icon Re: Windows Vista Service Pack 108.02.2008. u 03:22 - pre 196 meseci
Khmmm, nećemo morati baš toliko da čekamo, počeo je da se pojavljuje po internetu... očekujem da će sledeće nedelje biti na mnogo mesta da se preuzme...

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Bink.nu has the details.

Microsoft is gona be maaadddd....

For those hunting for the Windows Vista SP1 rtm, if you got your hands on Microsoft Windows Vista Service Pack 1 Release Candidate Refresh 2, you have the RTM bits!!!

Microsoft released this refresh build end of January though Windows Update only to selected testers, but clever people can get the downloaded SP package from the Windows Update download cache and they have the stand alone package of SP1 RTM.

bink.nu


A evo i prvih iskustava sa instalacijom finalne verzije Vista SP1
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For my installation and file copy tests, I installed Service Pack 1 on a fairly high-end system: Polywell's $4000 Poly P3503-3DT, a model packed with a 3-GHz Core 2 Extreme QX6850 CPU, 4GB of memory, and Windows Vista Ultimate Edition.

The first thing I noticed during the installation process was Windows Vista's friendly warning that the installation might take an hour or more. My experience was, pleasantly, far from that: The installation process required just 27 minutes, less than half of what I experienced with the first beta of SP1 back in September 2007. Your experience may vary greatly, depending upon your system's configuration, though: A Dell Inspiron 1420 notebook (with 2.2-GHz Core 2 Duo T7500 CPU and 2GB of memory) required just 30 minutes to complete; but two other, less powerful systems took far longer to complete the installation.

SP1 required three reboots in all. During a good portion of the installation time, about 18 minutes, Vista reported it was just preparing the configuration, before actually proceeding with the installation.

pcworld.com


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