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icon Koliko se isplati uložiti u učenje Microsoft® Dynamics™ NAV (Navision)11.11.2007. u 21:57 - pre 155 meseci
Relativno sam novi u svijetu ERP-a. Inače se bavim razvojem domaćeg ERP-a, a u želji za daljnim razvojem imam se namjeru okrenuti Navisonu. Vidim da se traže konzultatnti za Navision, a isto tako i programeri. E, sad koliko se isplati učiti C/SIDE za razvoj na Navision-u. S jedne strane malo je ljudi s tim znanjem, pa se lako prodati, a opet taj je jezik ograničen jedino na Navision (iako je sintaksa više-manje slična ostalim jezicima). Da li je ipak bolje savladati neki od .NET jezika (npr. C#, VB), pa su i mogućnosti programiranja puno veće ili ....
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icon Re: Koliko se isplati uložiti u učenje Microsoft® Dynamics™ NAV (Navision)12.11.2007. u 09:18 - pre 155 meseci
Koliko se meni čini, ako naučiš C# (ili bilo koji drugi jezik) sam C/AL ti neće biti problem. Kod učenja "Navižna" najmanji problem je sintaksa jezika (koja mnogo liči na Pascal), a daleko bitniji su sama logika, zatim vrste objekata i raznorazni propertiji na samim objektima koji olakšavaju razvoj aplikacije...

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icon Re: Koliko se isplati uložiti u učenje Microsoft® Dynamics™ NAV (Navision)12.11.2007. u 10:26 - pre 155 meseci
Isplati se i to mnogo
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icon Re: Koliko se isplati uložiti u učenje Microsoft® Dynamics™ NAV (Navision)12.11.2007. u 11:51 - pre 155 meseci
S obzirom da ovaj deo es foruma prate ljudi koji rade ili koriste ERP, verovatnoća da dobiješ odgovor da se ne isplati je minimalna


edit: možda bi se ova tema mogla spojiti sa temom o Akademiji jer imaju istu priču.

[Ovu poruku je menjao mirko.mirko dana 12.11.2007. u 13:53 GMT+1]
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icon Re: Koliko se isplati uložiti u učenje Microsoft® Dynamics™ NAV (Navision)12.11.2007. u 12:18 - pre 155 meseci
Cifra, naravno zavisi od znanja i iskustva, ali je i za početnike iznad proseka.
A sa druge strane, ukoliko stekneš određeno iskustvo, veoma lako možeš da promeniš firmu, jer nema dovoljno ljudi na tržištu sa tim znanjem.
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icon Re: Koliko se isplati uložiti u učenje Microsoft® Dynamics™ NAV (Navision)13.11.2007. u 09:07 - pre 155 meseci
Kako bih mogao verifikovati znanje Nav? Ima li neki sertifikat ili slično?

Izvinjavam se, sad sam video drugu temu sa tim što me zanima.
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icon Re: Koliko se isplati uložiti u učenje Microsoft® Dynamics™ NAV (Navision)13.11.2007. u 09:54 - pre 155 meseci
Možeš da polažeš ispite u Prometricu.

Ukoliko položiš 1 ispit dobijaš MS Business Solutions Certified Professional.
Kada sklopiš 4 ispita dobijaš MS Business Solutions Certified Master.

Master postoji za 3 oblasti:
•for Application (1 obavezan, 3 izborna)
•for Development (2 obavezna, 2 izborna)
•for Installatio and Configuration (2 obavezna, 2 izborna)

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icon Re: Koliko se isplati uložiti u učenje Microsoft® Dynamics™ NAV (Navision)13.11.2007. u 16:35 - pre 155 meseci
aleksandre, iz koje oblasti je tvoj master?
 
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icon Re: Koliko se isplati uložiti u učenje Microsoft® Dynamics™ NAV (Navision)17.11.2007. u 20:22 - pre 155 meseci
zna li neko zašto nema ni reči o pomenutim sertifikatima:

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/certifications.mspx
 
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icon Re: Koliko se isplati uložiti u učenje Microsoft® Dynamics™ NAV (Navision)17.11.2007. u 20:24 - pre 155 meseci
čak i google daje primetno drugačije rezultate:

Google: "MBSC learning microsoft"

Google: "MCSA learning microsoft"
 
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icon Re: Koliko se isplati uložiti u učenje Microsoft® Dynamics™ NAV (Navision)17.11.2007. u 20:35 - pre 155 meseci
Vidi ovde: https://partner.microsoft.com/40014374
 
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icon Re: Koliko se isplati uložiti u učenje Microsoft® Dynamics™ NAV (Navision)19.11.2007. u 07:03 - pre 155 meseci
https://mbs.microsoft.com/part...ampreparation/MBS_Nav_prep.htm

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icon Re: Koliko se isplati uložiti u učenje Microsoft® Dynamics™ NAV (Navision)19.11.2007. u 14:48 - pre 155 meseci
Mala ispravka vezana za nazive koji se dobijaju polaganjem Microsoft Dynamics ispita (ranije: Microsoft Business Solutions):

Ranije: Microsoft Business Solutions Certified Professional - Sada: Microsoft Certified Business Management Solution Specialist
Ranije: Microsoft Business Solutions Certified Master - Sada: Microsoft Certified Business Management Solution Professional.

dakle: professional --> specialist
master --> professional


Ovo me podseća na ovu našu zavrzlamu oko diplomiranih i mastera :)))

Možda nije mnogo bitno al' nek' se zna.
 
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icon Re: Koliko se isplati uložiti u učenje Microsoft® Dynamics™ NAV (Navision)24.11.2007. u 14:15 - pre 154 meseci


a da probaš da se ulogueš, pa nam baciš neki screenshot....
 
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Ovo su osnovni podaci, ukoliko želite za specifične ispite, kažite mi šta vas interesuje:



Microsoft Dynamics NAV Certification Exam Preparation Guides
Last Modified 2.11.2007
Posted 17.9.2004
Select an exam from the list below to view the exam preparation guide.


If you're enrolled in a Partner Service Plan for Microsoft Dynamics convenient links have been added in the certification exam preparation guides to direct you right to the E-Learning and training materials associated with the certification exam so you can prepare for the exam. Note: Before the links in the learning plans will work properly, you must go to the main E-Learning page to first create your E-Learning account so the links within the certification exam preparation guides are active.

Costing
C/SIDE Introduction
C/SIDE Solution Development
Financial Series
Installation & Configuration
Manufacturing
Relationship Management
Service Management
Trade & Inventory
Warehouse Management

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Costing

Certification Title
Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Specialist - Costing for Microsoft Dynamics NAV
Exam Requirements
Microsoft Dynamics NAV Costing Exam
Available Languages
4.0 English


C/SIDE Introduction

Certification Title
Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Specialist - C/SIDE Introduction for Microsoft Dynamics NAV
Exam Requirements
Microsoft Dynamics NAV C/SIDE Introduction Exam
Available Languages
5.0 English
4.0 English


C/SIDE Solution Development

Certification Title
Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Specialist - C/SIDE Solution Development for Microsoft Dynamics NAV
Exam Requirements
Microsoft Dynamics NAV C/SIDE Solution Development Exam
Available Languages
5.0 English
4.0 English
3.x English


Financial Series

Certification Title
Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Specialist - Financials for Microsoft Dynamics NAV
Exam Requirements
Microsoft Dynamics NAV Financials Exam
Available Languages
5.0 English
4.0 English
3.x English
5.0 Danish
5.0 Dutch
5.0 French
5.0 German
5.0 Italian
5.0 Norwegian
5.0 Spanish
5.0 Swedish
4.0 Czech
4.0 Danish
4.0 Dutch
4.0 Estonian
4.0 Finnish
4.0 French
4.0 German
4.0 Italian
4.0 Latvian
4.0 Lithuanian
4.0 Norwegian
4.0 Polish
4.0 Portuguese
4.0 Russian
4.0 Spanish
4.0 Swedish


Installation & Configuration

Certification Title
Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Specialist - Installation and Configuration for Microsoft Dynamics NAV
Exam Requirements
Microsoft Dynamics NAV Installation and Configuration Exam
Available Languages
5.0 English
4.0 English


Manufacturing

Certification Title
Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Specialist - Manufacturing for Microsoft Dynamics NAV
Exam Requirements
Microsoft Dynamics NAV Manufacturing Exam
Available Languages
4.0 English
3.x English
4.0 Czech
4.0 Danish
4.0 Dutch
4.0 French
4.0 German
4.0 Italian
4.0 Russian
4.0 Spanish


Relationship Management

Certification Title
Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Specialist - Relationship Management for Microsoft Dynamics NAV
Exam Requirements
Microsoft Dynamics NAV Relationship Management Exam
Available Languages
4.0 English


Service Management

Certification Title
Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Specialist - Service Management for Microsoft Dynamics NAV
Exam Requirements
Microsoft Dynamics NAV Service Management Exam
Available Languages
4.0 English



Trade & Inventory

Certification Title
Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Specialist - Trade & Inventory for Microsoft Dynamics NAV
Exam Requirements
Microsoft Dynamics NAV Trade & Inventory Exam
Available Languages
4.0 English
4.0 Czech
4.0 Danish
4.0 Dutch
4.0 Estonian
4.0 Finnish
4.0 French
4.0 German
4.0 Italian
4.0 Latvian
4.0 Lithuanian
4.0 Norwegian
4.0 Polish
4.0 Portuguese
4.0 Russian
4.0 Spanish
4.0 Swedish


Warehouse Management

Certification Title
Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Specialist - Warehouse Management for Microsoft Dynamics NAV
Exam Requirements
Microsoft Dynamics NAV Warehouse Management Exam
Available Languages
4.0 English
3.x English
4.0 Czech
4.0 Danish
4.0 Dutch
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4.0 German
4.0 Italian
4.0 Russian
4.0 Spanish


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icon Re: Koliko se isplati uložiti u učenje Microsoft® Dynamics™ NAV (Navision)26.11.2007. u 19:20 - pre 154 meseci
ovde piše da je svuda potreban jedan ispit?

gledao sam ostale MS stranice, koje su dostupne, i skoro za svaki sert se traži SQL Server 2005, jel tačno?
 
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icon Re: Koliko se isplati uložiti u učenje Microsoft® Dynamics™ NAV (Navision)27.11.2007. u 07:57 - pre 154 meseci
Za "Installation and Configuration" jedan od obaveznih ispita je i SQL administracija. Do Nove godine će biti dovoljan MS SQL 2000, a posle toga mora MS SQL 2005. SQL se traži samo za ovaj sertifikat, za programere i konsultante nije potreban.
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icon Re: Koliko se isplati uložiti u učenje Microsoft® Dynamics™ NAV (Navision)27.11.2007. u 08:02 - pre 154 meseci
Evo malo detaljnije za svaki sertifikat:

Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Professional Applications for Microsoft Dynamics NAV
Last Modified 16.10.2007
Posted 28.7.2004
This premier certification helps demonstrate your professional developer proficiency in Microsoft Dynamics NAV. You must pass one core certification exam and three elective exams to earn your certification in Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Professional Applications for Microsoft Dynamics NAV.

If you're enrolled in a Partner Service Plan for Microsoft Dynamics convenient links have been added in the certification exam preparation guides to direct you right to the E-Learning and training materials associated with the certification exam so you can prepare for the exam. Note: Before the links in the learning plans will work properly, you must go to the main E-Learning page to first create your E-Learning account so the links within the certification exam preparation guides are active.

For more information about certifications or to prepare for a certification exam, review the following exam preparation guides.

Core Exams (1 exam required):
Financials in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 5.0

Elective Exams (3 exams required):
Relationship Management in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 4.0
Manufacturing in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 4.0
Service Management in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 4.0
Warehouse Management in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 4.0
Trade & Inventory in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 4.0
Costing in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 4.0
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Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Professional–Developer for Microsoft Dynamics NAV
Last Modified 16.10.2007
Posted 28.7.2004
This premier certification helps demonstrate your professional developer proficiency in Microsoft Dynamics NAV. You must pass two core certification exams and two elective exams to earn your certification in Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Professional Developer for Microsoft Dynamics NAV.

If you're enrolled in a Partner Service Plan for Microsoft Dynamics convenient links have been added in the certification exam preparation guides to direct you right to the E-Learning and training materials associated with the certification exam so you can prepare for the exam. Note: Before the links in the learning plans will work properly, you must go to the main E-Learning page to first create your E-Learning account so the links within the certification exam preparation guides are active.

For more information about certifications or to prepare for a certification exam, review the following exam preparation guides.

Core Exams (2 exams required):
C/SIDE Introduction in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 5.0
C/SIDE Solution Development in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 5.0

Elective Exams (2 exams required):
Financials in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 5.0
Warehouse Management in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 4.0
Manufacturing in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 4.0
Installation and Configuration in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 5.0
Trade & Inventory in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 4.0
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Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Professional Microsoft Dynamics NAV Installation & Configuration
Last Modified 16.10.2007
Posted 28.7.2004
This premier certification helps demonstrate your professional developer proficiency in Microsoft Dynamics NAV. You must pass two core certification exams and two elective exams to earn your certification in Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Professional Installation and Configuration for Microsoft Dynamics NAV.

If you're enrolled in a Partner Service Plan for Microsoft Dynamics convenient links have been added in the certification exam preparation guides to direct you right to the E-Learning and training materials associated with the certification exam so you can prepare for the exam. Note: Before the links in the learning plans will work properly, you must go to the main E-Learning page to first create your E-Learning account so the links within the certification exam preparation guides are active.

For more information about certifications or to prepare for a certification exam, review the following exam preparation guides.

Core Exams (2 exams required):
Installation and Configuration in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 5.0
MS Exam 70-228*: Installing, Configuring and Administering Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Enterprise Edition OR MS Exam: TS: 70-431: Microsoft SQL 2005 – Implementation and Maintenance

Elective Exams (2 exams required):
Financials in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 5.0
C/SIDE Introduction in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 5.0
Trade & Inventory in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 4.0
Warehouse Management in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 4.0
Manufacturing in Microsoft Dynamics NAV 4.0
MS Exam 70-290: Managing and Maintaining a Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Environment
MS Exam 70-291: Implementing, Managing, and Maintaining a Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Network Infrastructure

*MS Exam 70-228: Installing, Configuring and Administering Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Enterprise Edition will be valid until Dec 31, 2007.

Note: To become certified as a Microsoft Certified Business Management Solutions Professional, you must successfully complete the exams that are based on version Microsoft Dynamics NAV 4.0 and/or Microsoft Dynamics NAV 5.0.
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