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^{26.09.2010. u 08:28 - pre 165 meseci}

Kao sto vec rekoh, postulate nestrucnog rukovanje samim aparatom, sa promasenim osnovnim parametrima prikazivati u ovako izguglanim snapshot sampleovima na silovanih ISO 25600 mogu citavu pricu o ovom, nesumnjivo kvalitetnom, DSLRu samo da odvedu u pogresnom smeru.

Da sacekamo jos malo, cemu nestrpljenje, siguran sam da se i na ovim prostorima uveliko i vredno radi na kud i kamo kvalitetnijem prikazu i samog aprata i zapisa koji daje od ovih "state-of-the-art" brljotina.

Domace je, IPAK, domace

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Re: Novine iz Nikona

^{26.09.2010. u 09:57 - pre 165 meseci}

Nisi razumeo

Nije ovde bitan detalj to što su originalne fotografije uslikane sa aparatom koji je žicom vezan za Nikon PhotoKina pult, ni to što je u pitanju ISO 25600, a još manje što u pitanju nezvanični firmware v0.28

Hteo je slikovito reći, da je došlo njegovo vreme, ne nikonovo ... nego njegovo, ART vreme.

Offtopic, nevezan za temu … kao i uvek

Lomografija je kad imaš sa čime, a nećeš … a Pinhole kad nemaš sa čime, a hoćeš! ^tm

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^{26.09.2010. u 10:13 - pre 165 meseci}

Mada je vec (pretpostavljam) poznato, da okacimo i u ovaj topic

ISO 100-12800

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^{02.10.2010. u 10:39 - pre 164 meseci}

Jedno od najvecih iznenadjenja, bar za mene, kada su novotarije iz N tabora u pitanju je jedan veoma interesantan preview za Nikon D3100, ali ovog puta pisan od strane jednog proverenog Canondzije, sto se u kvalitetnom tekstualnom, a bogami i ilustrativnom delu nikako ne moze naslutiti. Jako lepo stivo, i rekao bih dobar uvod u ono sto tek treba da usledi, bar kada je pominjani D7000 u pitanju.

Pozz

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^{06.10.2010. u 16:03 - pre 164 meseci}

Nikon sensors, Thom Hogan

Citat:

First, the D3100 sensor is clearly fabbed by someone other than Sony and represents an entirely new sensor entry. Nikon's claiming it's completely their design, so I'll run with that unless someone can show me otherwise. In terms of image quality, it's pretty darned good for still work. For instance, it's clearly better than the equivalent 14mp Sony sensor (in the NEX5 I've been testing). I'll have more to say on that soon when I reveal some testing I've done, but it's definitely a modest step forward from, say, the D5000/D90 sensor. The drawback? Video sucks. The rolling shutter problem in this sensor is about as bad as I've seen in a DSLR. So panning or moving objects tend to get the "leans" and back and forth panning is like looking into a bowl of Jello during an earthquake. That's a real shame, as the D3100 was looking pretty darned good in both features and performance until I discovered that. The strange thing is that the previous Nikon-designed sensor--that for the D3s--definitely addressed rolling shutter, so perhaps the D3100 sensor designers didn't get the memo.

The D7000 sensor is almost certainly fabbed and assembled at the Sony factory. Nearly everything external about the sensor has Sony written all over it. The packing style is Sony. The wiring to the sensor internals is Sony. The specs (I've now corrected them in my charts) are downright Sony-like. Except...Nikon is claiming this, too, is a Nikon design. There do appear to be some differences in low-level specs (besides the obviously different masking, which Nikon has always done with Sony sensors). Two things in particular stand out: video differences and ADC differences. Thus, for example, one might hypothesize that Nikon used the existing Sony sensels and put their own electronics alongside. Hard to say without more evidence, and because we don't have cameras in hand yet, it's impossible to yet dissect things and try to figure out the differences, if any.

Someone asked me why Nikon would do their own 14mp sensor for one camera and hedge for the 16mp camera and sensor. One possible explanation: Nikon was hedging all along. One speculation I heard from a sensor expert I talked to is that Nikon made the decision to go all Nikon in the future, but because that's a huge undertaking of unknown outcome and could impinge on product design cycles, they hedged their bets by making the new Nikon sensors very similar in specification to what they could get with off-the-shelf Sony ones. The hypothesis goes like this: for the D3100 Nikon created production plans for both their own 14mp sensor (if it made it to their quality levels in time) and Sony's. Thus, if they failed with getting their own first DX sensor fully up to speed, they would have a reasonable fall-back position. With the D7000 the guess from the sensor expert was that there may perhaps have been as many as three 16mp sensor initiatives for the camera: Sony-only, Nikon-modified, and Nikon-only. We seem to have gotten the Nikon-modified version, which would mean that the Nikon-only one didn't clear some hurdle to production. Again, these thoughts are speculation, though they are speculation by someone close to the Japanese sensor makers.

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^{07.10.2010. u 12:10 - pre 164 meseci}

@ludi_splićo

Dokle god mogu da izvedu da im aparati prave dobru sliku, proizvodjac nije bitan.
Mnogo je vaznije dobro uklapanje softvera i hardvera u jednu celinu.

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^{04.11.2010. u 14:24 - pre 163 meseci}

Kao što se i očekivali Nikon D5000 je otišao u EOL, svjerojatno je slična sudbina zadesila i D90 no to ćemo službeno znati tek kada se rasprodaju sve zalihe.

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^{01.12.2010. u 08:56 - pre 162 meseci}

dpreview pregled novog d7000 je tu.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/1012/10120104nikond7000review.asp

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^{01.12.2010. u 16:25 - pre 162 meseci}

Malo bolji link:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond7000/

Conclusion - Pros

* Good detail and dynamic range (even better in RAW)
* Exceptionally low shadow noise in RAW files
* Arguably the best high ISO performance of any current APS-C DSLR
* Good build quality and handling
* Maximum ISO of 25,600 st full resolution
* 1080p HD video mode with basic editing built-in
* Efficient Active D-Lighting
* Comprehensive customization options
* Large, bright viewfinder with 100% coverage
* Fast contrast detect Auto Focus in Live View
* Useful electronic horizon
* Comprehensive feature set
* AE metering support for up to 9 'non-CPU' Ai lenses (in P, A, M modes)
* Twin SD-card slots

Conclusion - Cons

* Tendency to overexpose in bright sunshine/high contrast situations
* ISO button is poorly positioned, and cannot be assigned to any other control point.
* Ditto white balance: poorly positioned, cannot be re-assigned
* Exposure mode dial slightly loose, and easily knocked
* Shooting mode dial can be awkward to manipulate
* AF can be hesitant in poor light
* Auto ISO function is confusing and poorly implemented (but no worse than any other Nikon DSLR)
* Aperture not adjustable in manual mode in live view (and won't stop up/down in any mode until exposure).

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^{01.12.2010. u 16:35 - pre 162 meseci}

Citat:

ArtCool: Malo bolji link:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond7000/

Conclusion - Cons

* Tendency to overexpose in bright sunshine/high contrast situations
* ISO button is poorly positioned, and cannot be assigned to any other control point.
* Ditto white balance: poorly positioned, cannot be re-assigned
* Exposure mode dial slightly loose, and easily knocked
* Shooting mode dial can be awkward to manipulate
* AF can be hesitant in poor light
* Auto ISO function is confusing and poorly implemented (but no worse than any other Nikon DSLR)
* Aperture not adjustable in manual mode in live view (and won't stop up/down in any mode until exposure).

* Tendency to overexpose in bright sunshine/high contrast situations - set it to -2/3 ev
* ISO button is poorly positioned, and cannot be assigned to any other control point. - It is in the left-hand row, and perfectly findable.
* Ditto white balance: poorly positioned, cannot be re-assigned - It is in the left-hand row, and perfectly findable.
* Shooting mode dial can be awkward to manipulate - erh, I don't get the meaning of the sentence
* Auto ISO function is confusing and poorly implemented (but no worse than any other Nikon DSLR) - yes, the function is not easy to find in the menu, but why not choose an ISO yourself?
* Aperture not adjustable in manual mode in live view (and won't stop up/down in any mode until exposure). Well - could be better, but set the aperture first, and then use shutter-speed and/or the compensation ?lock button + arrows on the arrow dial. If you want a fast and fully functioning live view, buy a Panasonic GH2 until further notice.

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^{01.12.2010. u 18:11 - pre 162 meseci}

@ludi_splićo

Pa nisi bas toliko besposlicar

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^{01.12.2010. u 18:37 - pre 162 meseci}

ma jest ba njega fjaka drzi dvanaest mjeseci :D

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^{01.12.2010. u 19:34 - pre 162 meseci}

Neke od zamerki nisu nimalo naivne. Preeksponiranje na suncu je više pravilo nego slučajnost, a prosta kompenzacija ne pali uvek, pa je često potrebno pucati dva-tri puta. Neko baš nije navikao na proba/greška sistem rada.

ISO taster jeste postavljen malo retardirano, a ovo za LV ne bih komentarisao. Treba probati raditi išta njime, pa videti da su malo poviše ukakali stvar.

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^{01.12.2010. u 20:19 - pre 162 meseci}

Citat:

StORM48: Preeksponiranje na suncu je više pravilo nego slučajnost, a prosta kompenzacija ne pali uvek, pa je često potrebno pucati dva-tri puta. Neko baš nije navikao na proba/greška sistem rada.

Za razliku od Canona mjerenje svjetla kod Nikona je jako predvidljivo tj. ne oscilira u istoj ili sličnoj situaciji pa se sve lako rješi sa kompenzacijom.

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StORM48:ISO taster jeste postavljen malo retardirano, a ovo za LV ne bih komentarisao.

U LV ima najbrži AF od ijednog do sada tetiranog SLR, znači LV je sa te strane jako dobro rješen. Tipka za ISO je na 5x boljem mjestu nego kod recimo Canona 60D mada mi je na najboljem mjestu kod troznamenkastih Nikona. Nekako me čudi kako to nisu zamjerali D80 ili D90 koji to imaju jednako riješeno?

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