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icon Russian Pilots Land Passenger Jet In Taiga Saving 81 Lives13.09.2010. u 20:29 - pre 165 meseci
Russian Pilots Land Passenger Jet In Taiga Saving 81 Lives
Posted on September 8, 2010 by Av8tor

A Tu-154 aircraft with failed flight control, navigation and radio communication systems has landed in taiga cutting a 200-meter-long swath through the forest, with no casualties and minimum damage to the plane.

The incident has already stirred the country’s Internet community, with the most-debated question as to whether or not the pilots will receive Hero of Russia awards, newsru.com website says.

Meanwhile, a group of the Federal Agency of Air Transport (Rosaviation) representatives have departed for Russia’s northwestern Komi Republic to investigate the incident, which experts call nothing less than a miracle.



The jet, with 72 passengers and nine crew members onboard was making a voyage from Russia’s Far East to Moscow. Four hours into the flight and at a two-hour distance from Moscow, the plane’s electrical generating system failed at a height of 10,000 meters above sparsely-populated taiga.

Pilots Evgeny Novoselov and Andrey Lamonov managed to land the plane manually on their third attempt, over speed, with a failed maneuvering system, no aircraft-to-ground communication and no air brakes.

As the grassy landing strip was too short for a plane that big, and the air brakes were not working, the Tu-154 rolled off into the wood, its wings “cutting the tree tops like a lawnmower,” said one of the shocked passengers later.


The craft stopped when its landing gear became bogged in a marsh.

The local firefighting squad helped people out of the plane via inflatable escape chutes.

The narrowly-escaped passengers were met in the nearby village by doctors and psychologists and later taken to Moscow by a special flight – except for two who preferred to go to Moscow by train.

Alrosa Airlines, which owns the plane, says the aircraft was technically sound. The final word concerning that issue, though, rests with the special “Rosaviation” commission.

Nevertheless, if no failures in the plane’s load-carrying structure and its power-units are found and a corresponding permission is obtained from the Ministry of Transport, the airline is planning to return the plane into operation – that is, to pull it out of the forest and take off.

Test pilots will be needed, Alrosa’s representative said. Another miracle would be more useful, in the plane’s heroic pilots’ opinion.

According to Yury Karash, pilot and aviation expert, a possible explanation of the accident could be that the aircraft’s equipment was worn out.

“Providing that the Tupolev 154 is not quite a brand new aircraft and I am sure that this aircraft was manufactured at least 20 years ago, maybe even more, I believe there is a chance that the equipment was just worn out,” he said.

Designed to operate in a very harsh environment, Soviet aircraft are over-engineered and still very safe to fly, but they need proper maintenance, Karash said.

He praised the professional skills of the crew, upholding the idea of rewarding them with medals; these would be very well-deserved, he pointed out.

“The Tu-154 is not an easy aircraft to fly, even when everything operates as it is supposed to operate, but to land it with inoperative flaps is a challenging piece of work, and I have to say that the crew did it just fine,” Karash said.

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icon Re: Russian Pilots Land Passenger Jet In Taiga Saving 81 Lives13.09.2010. u 20:33 - pre 165 meseci
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Nevertheless, if no failures in the plane’s load-carrying structure and its power-units are found and a corresponding permission is obtained from the Ministry of Transport, the airline is planning to return the plane into operation – that is, to pull it out of the forest and take off.


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icon Re: Russian Pilots Land Passenger Jet In Taiga Saving 81 Lives13.09.2010. u 22:10 - pre 165 meseci
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icon Re: Russian Pilots Land Passenger Jet In Taiga Saving 81 Lives13.09.2010. u 22:54 - pre 165 meseci
Da da, da slave novi rođendan :)))
 
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icon Re: Russian Pilots Land Passenger Jet In Taiga Saving 81 Lives13.09.2010. u 23:17 - pre 165 meseci
Kako vidim na fotkama, pilot je sleteo na neki stari/napušteni aerodrom, ali pošto nije imao dovoljno piste za zaustavljanje uzleteo je u grmlje... Ne znam šta je bio uzrok prinudnog sletanja, ali kako je imao asfaltnu pistu na raspolaganju, nije neko čudo što su u jednom komadu...

 
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icon Re: Russian Pilots Land Passenger Jet In Taiga Saving 81 Lives13.09.2010. u 23:25 - pre 165 meseci
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The jet, with 72 passengers and nine crew members onboard was making a voyage from Russia’s Far East to Moscow. Four hours into the flight and at a two-hour distance from Moscow, the plane’s electrical generating system failed at a height of 10,000 meters above sparsely-populated taiga.

Pilots Evgeny Novoselov and Andrey Lamonov managed to land the plane manually on their third attempt, over speed, with a failed maneuvering system, no aircraft-to-ground communication and no air brakes.

As the grassy landing strip was too short for a plane that big, and the air brakes were not working, the Tu-154 rolled off into the wood, its wings “cutting the tree tops like a lawnmower,” said one of the shocked passengers later.
 
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icon Re: Russian Pilots Land Passenger Jet In Taiga Saving 81 Lives13.09.2010. u 23:32 - pre 165 meseci
Jeste da je pista zarasla, i da je verovatno uska i prekratka za taj tip aviona... Ali ja ipak vidim više asfalta nego trave na ovoj pisti, i cenim da je upravo to ključni faktor koji im je spasao život, a ne veština pilota... Može pilot da bude najbolji top gun na svetu, al kad se susretnu šuma i avion, šuma uvek pobeđuje.
 
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icon Re: Russian Pilots Land Passenger Jet In Taiga Saving 81 Lives13.09.2010. u 23:46 - pre 165 meseci
Mislim da preteruješ. Toliko sistema je otkazalo. Treba biti majstor i spustiti toliki avion pod takvim uslovima.
 
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icon Re: Russian Pilots Land Passenger Jet In Taiga Saving 81 Lives14.09.2010. u 00:05 - pre 165 meseci
Bilo bi prilično idiotski da nije uspeo da spusti avion... Pored toliko sati i love koje se godišnje sprca na simulatore upravo da bi se trenirali za ovakve situacije...

Nije bilo eksplozija, dima, lomljave... Izdešavali su se otkazi sistema, skoro pa identično onome kao što su već gomilu puta prošli... Imali su sreće da je u blizini bila kakva takva pista, i to im je verovatno sačuvalo glave.. Hvaliti pilota je prilično overrated u ovom slučaju... Onom liku što je spustio avion u Hadson, i to u jednom komadu, e tom treba skinuti kapu, to je nešto za šta ti treba veština+gomila sreće da bi uspeo...
 
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icon Re: Russian Pilots Land Passenger Jet In Taiga Saving 81 Lives14.09.2010. u 00:25 - pre 165 meseci
@ventura

Putnicki avion nije sportski, pa ne mozes tek tako da ga spustus bilo gde.
Ove ljude je spasilo odsustvo pravog drveca oko piste...Pitanje je koliko je goriva bilo u njemu, jer u slucaju da je iza piste bilo pravo drvece vrlo verovatno bi planuli k'o sibica...
Spustanje na takav aerodrom u takvin uslovima je optrilike ekvivalent tome spustanju u Hadson.
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icon Re: Russian Pilots Land Passenger Jet In Taiga Saving 81 Lives14.09.2010. u 00:44 - pre 165 meseci
Four hours into the flight and at a two-hour distance from Moscow. Imali su goriva za dva sata leta.
 
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icon Re: Russian Pilots Land Passenger Jet In Taiga Saving 81 Lives14.09.2010. u 05:26 - pre 165 meseci
Jbt sto su ljudi postali surovi u kritici drugih....

Da, covek je sleteo na pistu, da, covek je imao x sati vezbe na simulatoru, da, covek je obucen za to ali ljudi covek je i uspeo to da ponovi u pravoj situaciji kad je trebalo. Nemojte se zanositi da je x sati na simulatoru isto sto i 1s u realnosti.

Svaka njima cast i nadjmo se da ce ih vise uspeti.
 
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icon Re: Russian Pilots Land Passenger Jet In Taiga Saving 81 Lives14.09.2010. u 07:55 - pre 165 meseci
Ovako.

Avion je ostao skroz bez elektro sistema. Radila je samo BATTERY pumpa za gorivo u centralnom rezervoaru i imali su manje od 1,5 tone goriva na raspolaganju u roku od 30 minuta kolko baterija radi.

Dakle, bili su ograniceni sa gorivom.

Drugo, nisu imali slatsove (a u vazduhu speed brakes), takodje imali su samo manual-reversion kontrole sto je kao kad vam se pokvari servo na autobusu pa vi probajte da vozite tako:)

Takodje mislim da ni hidro pumpa za flaposove nije radila, a oni se kod TU-154 mogu mehanicki spustiti samo na odredjeni nivo.

Na svu srecu, reverseri su radili te je zaustavljanje aviona bilo sigurnije.

Elem, 1200 metara piste i to napustene i dosta uske (45m) je lutrija za bilo koji avion te kategorije (sa velikim brojem putnika, bagazem, gorivom) a kamoli za TU-154. On i kad je konfigurisan za sletanje je brz na sletanju (130-135KTS). U ovom slucaju brzina je isla minimalno 145KTS. Prazan TU-154 moze da se zaustavi na 1200m. Pun, sa gorivom, nema sanse. I to kad je sve na avionu ispravno.

To je MNOGO za sletanje, tih 10 do 15KTS vise je katastrofa u najavi.

Pri tom, morao je da sleti tako da ne osteti gume ili stajni trap pa da se isprevrcu. Sa ogranicenim flapsovima, bez spojlera, slats-ova, sa manuelnom kontrolom, i sa slabim pritiskom u sistemu kocenja.

Posada je odradila odlican posao. Za to su placeni i obuceni ali svejedno ovo sto su uradili je za svaku pohvalu. Treba biti dobro istreniran i imati odlicnu saradnju s posadom za ovo.
 
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icon Re: Russian Pilots Land Passenger Jet In Taiga Saving 81 Lives14.09.2010. u 08:24 - pre 165 meseci
Pilot zaslužuje da mu se kaže svaka čast, malo tapšanja po ramenu, i to je to.

Odradili su odlično svoj posao, ali na kraju krajeva to i jeste bio njihov posao. Avio kompanije plaćaju desetine hiljada evra godišnje da bi tu istu posadu obučavala u simulatorima da bi znali kako da reaguju upravo u ovakvim situacijama.

 
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icon Re: Russian Pilots Land Passenger Jet In Taiga Saving 81 Lives14.09.2010. u 09:38 - pre 165 meseci
Jeste, ali simulator nema veze s mozgom. Mislim ovako nesto nikad ne mogu da uvezbaju. Nigde. Ovo se radi cisto na srecu, neko letacko iskustvo, misice i ono "Boz pomozi".

Recimo, otkaz motora na simulatoru je smesan. Otkaz motora u pravom letenju je uzas za posadu, iako su navezbali u simulatoru. Potpuno druga prica. U simulatoru nemas putnike, nemas osecaj realnosti, cujes i vidis alarme, postupis po proceduri i to je to.

U avionu, imas stotine putnika iza sebe. Alarmi piste, dok si ti u turbulentnim oblacima, avion se tumba, drmusa, propada, luduje, dok ti pokusavas samo da iscitas i odradis check-listu gasenja motora. Jos ako ima i pozara, eto belaja. Ili, zamisli ovo samo nocu:)
 
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icon Re: Russian Pilots Land Passenger Jet In Taiga Saving 81 Lives17.09.2010. u 07:31 - pre 165 meseci
"Lako je tudjim ku***m gloginje mlatit"

Svaka cast posadi. Ovo se desva jednom u 1000 pokusaja. Svakako ih treba odlikovati, zahvaljujuci njima putnici su zadrzali glavu na ramenima.
 
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