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Re: Demonoid ne prikazuje upload/download statistiku

^{01.06.2007. u 11:44}

Everything you ever needed to know about Demonoid ratios:
First of all, you don't get banned for a low ratio. I got that info from a mod. The ban warning is to scare n00bs into learning how to be good members of a torrent community; that's it. The only way you'll get banned from this site is if you're a serious dick to people or routinely ignore the rules. That being said, people are a lot nicer to you if you've got a good ratio. After you've been here a few months, if your ratio's still below 0.3 or something, & you haven't uploaded any of your own torrents to this site, don't expect people to jump to respond to your reseed requests or anything.

Now, without further ado:

How Demonoid handles ratios
Ratios here at Demonoid are handled differently than they are at other sites. Most sites that track ratios cap their membership somewhere in the tens of thousands (and generally handle even less peers at any given time) whereas Demonoid's tracker handles millions of peers. Most other sites embed a passkey in your torrent and update your stats at regular intervals. This creates a lot of work for the tracker. Demonoid uses a process that is much less work for the tracker. This allows us to have many more members without having to buy many more servers. The way it works is at the end of a torrent session, your BitTorrent client sends a "event=stopped" message that includes information on how much you have uploaded and downloaded. If this "event=stopped" message is not received properly, your ratio will not be updated. Some complain that Demonoid should have a PID system like all those other sites, but there are plenty of PID sites out there already, and it has never been Deimos' intention to make this like every other site. Basically the choice is which would you rather have, the diversity of torrents that 2 million members brings or more perfect ratio tracking? (I'll assume since you're here & not at one of those other sites that you agree that there are unique benefits to the way things are run here at Demonoid.) FYI, if "event=stopped" messages aren't getting through, it is likely that your last bit of seeding isn't getting tracked on other sites as well.

Also, be aware that external torrents do not count toward your ratio. When you search for a torrent on Demonoid, external torrents show up with a red (external) next to their name, and on the torrent page, you will see that the "Announce URL:" does not start with "http://inferno.demonoid.com"

Reasons why a "event=stopped" message may not be received

* If your computer crashes.
* If there is a network problem. For instance, if your connection to the internet is not completely stable (a.k.a. you're "dropping packets"), or if the tracker times out. Sometimes packets just get lost on the internet. There's nothing you can do about this, but know that these sorts of things usually even out over time. This time you might have lost some upload data, but next time you might lose some download data. The law of averages states that over time, this will not have a significant effect on your ratio.
* If the tracker is down. If you wait to stop your torrents until the tracker is back up, this will not be a problem. You will get credit for everything you have downloaded/uploaded, even while the tracker was down.
* If your torrent client does not send "event=stopped" messages. See our list of approved clients. Unapproved clients do not follow standard BitTorrent protocol & do not send this message. Use them at your own risk.
* If Demonoid does not have your correct IP address. Without knowing your IP address, the tracker doesn't know which account to assign a "event=stopped" message to.
* If you quit your torrent client before it has sent the "event=stopped" message. After you stop your torrents, watch your clients upload/download speed counter. Do not quit your client until that counter has reached 0/0. Regardless of how fast your counter reads 0, it's a good idea to wait a minute before quitting your client or shutting down your computer.
* If your upload speed is maxed out. If your upload bandwidth is entirely maxed out, there might not be enough room for it to send your "event=stopped" message. You should limit your upload speed to 80% of your maximum upload bandwidth.

How to make sure the tracker knows your IP address
To log your IP address, simply log on to the torrents section of this site. When your client sends the "event=stopped" message, the tracker will match the IP that sent that message to whoever has logged in most recently from that IP. It is a good idea to always log into the site a few minutes before you stop a torrent. (If your IP rarely changes and you visit the torrents section of this site frequently, it may not be necessary to do this every time, but I recommend doing it, anyway. Like nuking a planet from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.) Some members swear that the best way to ensure that the tracker has logged your IP is to go to the site, log out, clear your cookies (or the Demonoid-related cookies, at least) & your cache, log back in, and visit a few torrent pages before you stop your torrents. Not all members find it necessary to go through all these steps, but you may want to try this if your ratio is not updating correctly. If you use your account from more than 1 IP, even just to browse the website, pay special attention to those instructions! If you are behind a proxy or your internet service provider (ISP) handles your IP in some other weird way, there may be nothing you can do to get your ratio reported correctly, but hey, some other sites will just ban you outright for stuff like that. At least we let you stick around. Cool If your ratio never updates, you may want to make sure to participate in the forums & leave torrent comments just to be sure your account isn't pruned due to apparent inactivity.

How to make sure your "event=stopped" message gets sent
Some torrent clients have the option to "pause" a download rather than "stopping" it. Sometimes one of these options will send the "event=stopped" message, and the other won't. Usually "stopping" works best, but if you're still having problems, try "pausing" instead. See our list of approved clients to find out which clients do & do not send "event=stopped" messages. If you are using BitComet, try this.

How to make sure your internet connection is stable
Make sure all the cables connecting you to the internet are attached securely & in good repair. If you are using DSL and you have static on your phone line, you may want to call your phone company to get the line repaired. If you are dropping packets, you may not notice it while you are simply surfing the web, but this may prevent the "event=stopped" message from being sent, and it will also cause slow download speeds. You will find better guides on diagnosing packet loss out on the web than I could provide you. If you suspect packet loss is your problem, go have a look around. Google is your friend. If you only experience an unstable internet connection when you're downloading/uploading, the solution may just be that you need to limit your upload speed.

How to Limit your upload speed
If your upload bandwidth is entirely maxed out, you may notice your downloads going very slow, or your internet connection may seem to stop working altogether. If this is the case, your "event=stopped" message might not make it through. If you are using DSL or your upload speed is capped, the general concensus is that you should limit your torrent upload capacity to 80% of your maximum upload speed. (Test your speed at a site like this one to determine your actual max speed.) Nearly all torrent clients have a feature that allows you to do this. If you are using an uncapped cable, T1, or T3 internet connection, then the picture gets a little more complicated. In that case, both your uploads & downloads may all run through the same pipe (as opposed to ADSL, where upload bandwidth is separated from download bandwidth.) In this case, if you are downloading at very high speeds, there still might not be enough room to send the "event=stopped" message. In this case, you may want to limit your download speed temporarily just before you stop your torrent. Some torrent clients have this feature, or you can find shareware, such as Netlimiter that will do it for you.
Note: Some members swear that the best method of ensuring your ratio gets tracked properly is to turn your upload & download speeds down as low as possible before stopping a torrent. Not all members find it necessary to do this, but you may want to try it if you continue to have problems with your ratio.

What about Distributed Database (a.k.a. DHT)?
Distributed Database is a feature that some torrent clients provide that allows you to connect to peers without going through a tracker. This feature interferes with normal tracking of your ratio on all torrent sites (to the best of my knowledge). If you want your ratio to be tracked properly, turn DHT off. You should also turn off any other alternative ways of connecting to peers (i.e. Peer Exchange). Tell your client to only accept peers from the tracker.

Hey, I haven't downloaded anything from Demonoid in a while, but my ratio just went down. What gives?
Have you been downloading anything from Mininova (or any other torrent site that lists torrents hosted by other trackers)? Demonoid torrents are all over the place. Just because you didn't download it from Demonoid.com, don't assume it's not a Demonoid torrent. If it is a Demonoid torrent, you'll be able to tell because there will be a "Torrent downloaded from Demonoid.com.txt" file (or something similar) in the download.
If you haven't been downloading anything at all, another possibility is your IP has changed since the last time you visited the site, and the person who got your old IP also downloads from Demonoid. If you have a dynamic IP that changes frequently, visit the site often to make sure the site has your latest IP. (See "How to make sure the tracker knows your IP address" above for more info.)

Can I seed from 2 computers?
Yes, but you need to be careful to follow the instructions under "How to make sure the tracker knows your IP address" religiously. Say you're downloading/seeding on both on your computer at home and your computer at work. Your ratio should update just fine so long as you're careful to log into the site and give it time to update your IP before you stop your torrents. Note that you will need to manually stop your torrents. Having your torrent client stop them automatically is probably not a good idea in this scenario.
Now say you're in the opposite situation. Say you & your brother live together & each have Demonoid accounts & each have your own computers. Say your computers are on a home network that shares 1 internet connection with 1 IP (via a router). Life would be easiest if you 2 could just share 1 account, but say your brother's a rotten leecher & you don't want him screwing up your ratio. The key here is to not just log in every time you're about to stop your torrents, but once you're done, wait a little while, then log out as well. If you are able to, you may want to log into your account from another location (i.e. from work) just to be sure your home IP has been cleared from your account. This process doesn't work perfectly, but it's your best defense (short of coercing your brother into not being such a leecher Tongue)

Some other strategies

* Set your seeding torrents to autostop often. As I've said before, sometimes a packet just gets lost out on the internet or your computer crashes, etc. This is kinda a tragedy if you've been seeding for weeks & you've just lost gigs upon gigs of good ratio credit. To avoid this, you can set your seeding torrents to stop automatically every once in a while. Most torrent clients have this feature. Just watch it for the 1st day or so to be sure the "event=stopped" message does indeed get sent when your torrent autostops, & remember if you're seeding from multiple IPs or if your IP changes frequently, autostopping is probably not a good idea.
* Some members swear that their ratio gets tracked better when they [http://www.demonoid.com/torrent_upload.php]upload their own torrents.[/url] That is not any sort of official feature of this site, but, hey, it might be worth a try if you are desperate to fix your ratio (or if you just want to be cool & share something good with us Wink ) Be sure that your torrent complies with the rules. See also the duplicate torrent rules.)
* Before you stop your torrents, just take a second to check your torrent client's window & make sure all your torrents are scraping OK with no errors. If the tracker is down, your ratio will not get updated. (This is true for all trackers, not just Demonoid.) You may also want to click the "Update Tracker" button on your torrents before you stop them.
* Don't stop your torrents all at once. Again, not all members find it necessary to do this, but stopping your torrents one at a time ensures that there is enough bandwidth to send all the "event=stopped" messages, and also if there is a timeout (either on your side or on the server's) then at least you won't lose quite as much ratio info.
* Don't forget to log onto the site a little while before you stop torrents! Even if your IP hasn't changed since the last time you were here, you should log onto the site before stopping a torrent. (I'm not sure why this is true, but the tracker does seem to lose track of my IP after a couple days. I know Deimos takes our privacy very seriously. Perhaps our logged IP expires after a short time....)

What if I don't find the answer to my ratio problem here?
First of all, don't forget that it takes a while for your ratio to update. Give it at least 24 hours before you decide it's still not working. If you still need help, start a new topic, and explain the problem you're having. Include as much detail as you can about which torrent client you're using, what kind of internet connection you have (i.e. dynamic or static IP? Do you browse Demonoid's website from multiple computers?), and what your home network is like (i.e. do you have a router? Any other computers, etc. on your network?). Please do not just join in someone else's thread & say "I have the same problem." In order to help you quickly, we need more details than that. Also, please don't simply say "I tried everything in that ratio post" (meaning this one). Many people have said that & later it turns out either they didn't read the entire thing, or they misunderstood something. Please list everything you've tried so far. That will help us find an answer for you faster and without repeating what you've already done.

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^{01.06.2007. u 11:44}