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icon Premiere => Nagra (ROM12?)...27.05.2003. u 00:34

Navodno je enkripcija u samoj kartici, a ne kao dosad i navodno vodeci (nekad) hakeri nisu mogli nista sa tim napraviti, tj. nisu nikako mogli uci u nju, evo vec neki broj mjeseci...???

Ima li netko jos infa, momci? Ovo je sa Toecutter's...

"Premiere Nagra Encryption...Not Hacked and How It Works..

G`Day,

Just to clear up a few points and for the wishful thinkers about the new Premiere "Nagra" encryption system: This has not (as of yet) been hacked, they are not moving to a "Hacked" system as many people believe. The encryption system that will be introduced in the late summer has been developed together with the Swiss company Nagra and Premiere and is not the same as the present system that is being used on 30°W for example.
The main point is the encryption is within the smart card chip and not the CI or embedded cam.

Premiere was after a low cost solution to its hacked Betacrypt encryption. Nagra came up with the encryption being in the smart card itself and not in the CI or embedded cam thus Premiere will not have to exchange any old d-box, CI Cam or Premiere approved receivers. The official subscriber will receive in the post his/her new smart card and all they will have to do is take the old card out and insert the new one.......its as simple as that, no new cam, no new d-box, to give them their due a very good low cost solution!!!!!!!!!!!!! and according to Premiere/Nagra "Hacker Proof"

We will of course have to wait and see what happens but in the short term at least, we will loose Premiere from our screens!!!!!!!!!

I hope I´ve cleared up any miss-understanding but if any members have any further questions please post and I will try and answer them

Best Regards, As Always, Aussie"
27.05.2003. u 00:34 

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icon Re: Premiere => Nagra (ROM12?)...27.05.2003. u 20:05
samo jedna mala informacija glede Premiere:
po pisanju "Digital fernsehen" Premiere-in prelazak na jesen u nagru mogao bi se pomaci na pocetak iduce godine,sto i vecina radnika Premiere vjeruje.razlog je firma Kudelski koja jos nije dala fiksan termin isporuke kartica kao i tek zapoceta suradnja Kudelski-Betaresearch u vezi "Dbox"resivera .
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27.05.2003. u 20:05 

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icon Re: Premiere => Nagra (ROM12?)...28.05.2003. u 16:46
a na to sve dolaze i trenutni problemi sa dugo trazenim investitorom,koji trenutno nije u situaciji da prebaci novac na racun banaka koje cine konzorcijum.sve te stvari produzavaju agoniju premiere,a nas ovakve vesti mogu samo da obraduju...............
pravilo je da nema pravila,a ni to nije pravilo.....
28.05.2003. u 16:46 

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icon Re: Premiere => Nagra (ROM12?)...28.05.2003. u 17:24
ja se bas i ne radujem sto je premiere u agoniji...
jer to znaci da ce da propadne, a sta cemo onda mi da gledamo?
p.s.
jel znate onaj crtani film kada jedan mis kaze brzom gonzalesu
kako se raduje sto neka banda pljacka lokalne stanovnike...
a brzi gonzales mu odgovara da nije dobro sto ljudi nemaju hleba,
jer ce onda da pocnu da jedu mrvice, a sta ce onda da jedu misevi ?
28.05.2003. u 17:24 

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icon Re: Premiere => Nagra (ROM12?)...02.06.2003. u 16:18
"Never seen an Xin1 card then? Nagravision's inventors, Kudelski SA, are proposing to supply a card which communicates to the irdeto embedded boxes as any other irdeto card does. But just like an Xin1 emu, these new, non-irdeto packets are tunnelled through the module & parsed as something other than Irdeto.

The new core CAS may be based on Nagra, may be not. It's certainly a new card, not directly compatable with the ROM2/3/4/7/10/11 revisions Kudelski have issued before, cos they've nicked the pirate's Xin1 techniques. But there's nothing different in the way it works compared to any other CAS's smartcard... returning dCWs for those channels for which there's a valid sub: the "actual decryption" will still be performed by CSA decoder logic on the receiver-side of the ISO7816 socket."

Dakle, gooseye tvrdi da su Kudelski ocito maznuli hakersku tehniku xu1 fileova (copyright issues, guys, copyright, he, heee... :eyes )... A da li ce ostalo biti kompatibilno sa Nagrom i kako... Zivi bili....
02.06.2003. u 16:18 

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icon Re: Premiere => Nagra (ROM12?)...02.06.2003. u 18:12
Ako je tako onda ih apsolutno treba tuziti za povredu autorskih prava!!!
02.06.2003. u 18:12 

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icon Re: Premiere => Nagra (ROM12?)...02.06.2003. u 18:47
@pretty vidim ti ovdje reklamiras sat.forum, i nema nikakvih problema a tamo neki slovenac reklamira novi forum iz Slovenije i onaj Almir odmah hoce da ga iskljucuje i mnogo je politicki nastrojen, pre dan dva je cak upotrebio reci cetnicko-fasisticki-....itd mislim da to nije OK
02.06.2003. u 18:47 

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icon Re: Premiere => Nagra (ROM12?)...02.06.2003. u 21:15
Tog almira i njegove budalastine sam primetio poodavno, samo se pitam ko njemu dade da bude moderator...
02.06.2003. u 21:15 

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icon Re: Premiere => Nagra (ROM12?)...02.06.2003. u 23:11
Prije svega nije Almir nego Almin,a za svaki post koji vam ne odgovara mozete slobodo ici na opciju Report Post i tada prijaviti svakoga pa i moderatora.
I moderatori podlijezu pravilima kao i clanovi. Taj post je izbrisan a ako nije slobodno prijavite i bit ce izbrisan.Dalje natpis www.sat-update.com je u mom potpisu a ne kao poseban post,a ukoliko administraciji foruma to smeta tada ne bi dozvolili ni da u profilu stoji link za site od korisnika,ako ga ima!!! I za kraj moderatora biraju svi clanovi glasanjem!!!

Sto se tice linka za forum, ni to nije sporno ako je napisano pod forumom mali oglasi!!! Zar je toliko tesko se pridrzavati pravila??? Ipak link je ostao i samo je bila opomena u pitanju...

P.S.
Nesto nisam vidio da ste se bunili sto je i Jovica stavio link za svoj site u potpis!!!
Ipak mislim da ovo nije mjesto za politiku nego za SATV i FREE TV!!! Zar ne??? Ili sam pogrijesio mjesto??? Ako jesam onda mi recite!!!

P.P.S.
Molim moderatore da zakljucaju temu ako i dalje rasprava nastavi ici u pogresnom pravcu.
02.06.2003. u 23:11 

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