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Paypal prevara - zakljucavanje novca

^{16.06.2004. u 21:45 - pre 241 meseci}

Upozorenje za korisnike paypala:

Otvorio sam na paypalu racun pre oko godinu dana i na njemu od tada imam oko 200$... popunio sam sve sto su mi trazili da bih postao verified korisnik, potvrdio kreditnu karticu, email itd...

pokusao sam da kupim nesto sa ebaya danas (do danas nisam pokusavao da koristim novac na paypalu) i tog trenutka novac mi je zamrznut dok im ne posaljem faksom izvod bankovnog racuna i izvod kreditne kartice - bez ikakvog obrazlozenja zasto sem 'za vasu sigurnost'

kada im posaljem to onda ce mi mozda omoguciti da dalje koristim moj nalog... treba im do 30 dana da mi uopste posalju odgovor na email, a review mojih izvoda moze kao da traje i do 180 dana - za to vreme novac je zakljucan i ne mogu ga koristiti

postoji mogucnost da mi nikad i ne otkljucaju nalog

telefon za kontakt u USA postoji ali na njemu ne postoji ziv covek vec robot sa prepoznavanjem glasa - tako da ne mozete nikoga da kontaktirate za objasnjenje/pomoc, sem mailom, i to putem web formulara gde opet se dobije obavestenje da odgovor ce stici u sledecih 30 dana...

zato svima koji razmisljaju da postanu korisnici paypala - NEMOJTE

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Re: Paypal prevara - zakljucavanje novca

^{16.06.2004. u 22:46 - pre 241 meseci}

Novac na tvom bankovnom racunu nije zamrznut !
Mozes da ga podignes kad god hoces !
To je pod jedan.

Pod dva. Prvi put kada ubacis podatke za karticu na paypal-u, onda ti oni skinu 1,5$ koje ti vracaju kada izvrsis neku transakciju. Tako oni proveravaju da li zaista radi transfer novca sa tvoje kartice. To sto mi imamo slaborazvijen sistem, to je zasebna prica.

Ja imam VISA karticu kod jedne banke ( necu da je reklamiram ).
Kartica vazi 11 meseci. Dosada su mi samo skinuli 1,5 $. Nista nisam placao preko paypal-a. U medjuvremenu sam zaboravio password na paypal-u. Posto je procedura za 'potvrdjivanje' identiteta vlasnistva VISA kartice mnogo spora i mnogo komplikovana, ( sporaaaaaa, a telefonski racuni mogu da budu veliki ), sacekacu jos par meseci da uzmem drugu VISA karticu i da je aktiviram.

Iz predostroznosti sam podigao sav novac sa deviznog racuna.

Zakljucak : Ako bas ne morate - nemojte da koristite paypal ( a on je potreban za eBay !!! ). Sacekajte da mozemo i nasim dinarima sa novim karticama da kupujemo preko INTERNETA !!!

Uzgred, o slicnim temama imas u starijim porukama na ovom sajtu. Potrazi ih !

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Re: Paypal prevara - zakljucavanje novca

^{16.06.2004. u 22:52 - pre 241 meseci}

Ivane...

Da si procitao moj post od pre 2 godine ne bi otvarao paypal racun... a pogotovo ne iz srbije...

Ja sam imao account otvoren iz USA, verified, sa unesenim kredintim karticama, 2 racuna, poslat social security broj, dokumenta sve... I blokirali su mi account sa oko 2000 dolara na njemu, i plus 1000 dolara u transakcijama (koje su poslate, a blokirane, tako da je iznos skinut sa mog racuna, a nikad nije stigao na racun primaoca)...

Sve se zavrsilo nakon nekih 6-7 meseci od tog dana, nakon sati i sati telefonskih razgovora i igranja gluvih telefona... i inace od tih 3 hiljade sam primio cek na 1400 dolara... ostatak od 1600 dolara se ne zna gde je... jer boze, account je blokiran, nemogu da vidim stanje u racunu niti listing transakcija, i to sto su mi poslali to mi je...

I kad sam dobio i tih 1400 dolara, udarao sam se nogama u dupe...

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Re: Paypal prevara - zakljucavanje novca

^{16.06.2004. u 23:04 - pre 241 meseci}

Evo ti link ka slicnoj temi:
http://www.elitesecurity.org/tema/12923

a evo ti sajt gde mozes da vidis da nisi jedini:

www.paypalwarning.com

a evo ti i moja prica sa www.paypal.com

Citat:

From: Danko Vukovic
Date: 2/4/2002

We have started using PayPal to accept payment from our auction winning bidders on eBay since November 1st 2001. Since that time we had many successful transactions which are mostly in range of $80-$130, we were just accepting payments until mid December because we wanted to accumulate larger amount and then transfer it to our bank account, in the period of 15th-17th December 2001, we have transferred about $1600 directly to our bank account, and we haev made few payments for the auctions we have won on eBay which were totaling in about $1500, and on 17th December, I've got a notice of account suspension, and what is worse those few last payments for the auctions were stopped and all of our clients got an e-mail which basically says "They are thieves.", this have ruined our reputation and we ended up having a negative feedback on our last auctions, and complaints which resulted in suspension of our eBay account. When I saw the account suspension notice, I have faxed them all the necessary papers immediately, since there was no reply, I have faxed them again just before christmass. Since it was 5th of January, and still no reply from PayPal I have called them, when I was informed that "The faxes are running a bit late, please be patient for few more days", OK I have faxed them once again just to make sure, and I've waited until 10th Jan, still nothing; I call them again, and get a reply 'No fax was received', ok, I re-send the fax for the 4-th time, I call them in two days, and "The fax is in, it will be forwarded to Appeals dept.", I am calling again on 15th January, appeals dept. did not have received the fax yet, so I wait for few minutes until they get the fax, the clerk at the appeals looks over the fax and says that everything is ok, and that I should expect my account to be
unsuspended later afternoon since their system is malfunctioning at the moment.

And after all of this trouble, I am getting a message in my inbox "You account is deleted, you can contact us after the May 3rd and request the remaining funds to be sent to your address. This decision if final, you can not appeal." So I call a PayPal, talk about 15minutes with the clerk to transfer me to appeals dept, since he was stupid enough to locate my information, and I had to wait 30 minutes just to be hanged up after half an hour, so I call again, and after about 35minutes I get the appeals dept. I have just asked WHY?, to get an answer in a pretty unpleasant tone "You have violated the Term of Service!". Beep. She hanged up. No explanation, nothing. So I'm only left to wait until May to get my money back, and I just pray that PayPal wont bankrupt until then, but either ways I'm sure that they will find some other way not to give me my money back.

I have noticed that they constantly have many account suspended - The owner of the account can not operate with his funds, if you take a look at the banking system just before gret depression in '30s, you will notice that the banks were doing the exact same thing. The reason was - a lack of LIQUIDITY. That mean that PayPal DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY OUT ALL OF THEIR CLIENTS. Everyone knows what happened to the banks during great depression, and what will happen to paypal if they continue to do business like this. Just imagine how much money does paypal have blocked each month, and imagine PayPal putting that money to some real bank and earning an interest of your own money, I would like that they are doing this instead of the first scenario... Since in this case they are dishonest, and in the fist case they are THIEVES.

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Re: Paypal prevara - zakljucavanje novca

^{17.06.2004. u 21:57 - pre 241 meseci}

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pawo:Novac na tvom bankovnom racunu nije zamrznut !
Mozes da ga podignes kad god hoces !
To je pod jedan.

Pod dva. Prvi put kada ubacis podatke za karticu na paypal-u, onda ti oni skinu 1,5$ koje ti vracaju kada izvrsis neku transakciju. Tako oni proveravaju da li zaista radi transfer novca sa tvoje kartice. To sto mi imamo slaborazvijen sistem, to je zasebna prica.

ko je spominjao bankovni racun, govorim o novcu koji se nalazi na paypalu i njemu ne mogu da pristupim...
podatke za karticu sam ubacio odavno i postao verified... racun su mi zakljucali onda kada sam pokusao novac sa paypala da potrosim

Ventura : je***ga da sam procitao tvoje postove ranije znao bih, evo ponovo da upozorimo ljude da ne koriste paypal... ali ipak zarobili su mi manje $ nego tebi ako nista drugo...

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Re: Paypal prevara - zakljucavanje novca

^{04.09.2004. u 20:06 - pre 238 meseci}

Da i ja navedem svoje paypal iskustvo kao upozorenje ostalima.

Paypal mi je blokirao 150e kada sam pokrenuo transfer novca na nemacki racun.

Paypal racun mi je blokiran nakon identifikacije fax-om kada su saznali da sam iz SCG (prebivaliste u SCG, a racun u nemackoj).

Posle tri meseca, nekoliko frustrirajucih emailova i par telefonskih razgovora oprostio sam se od para...

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Re: Paypal prevara - zakljucavanje novca

^{04.09.2004. u 22:26 - pre 238 meseci}

Koliko ja znam mi nismo na approved listi pa s toga nemamo ni sta da trazimo na paypal-u.

A ni oni nisu ludi dozvole vam da primite novac.
I kad pokusate da izvucete novac ili nesto platite, blokiraju nalog i prave se ludi :) .
Imaju i oni ip2country :) pa vide odakle ste i odmah blokiraju.
A imaju i proxy check (proverio moj drugar :) ) tako da ni to ne pali.

A meni bi bas trebao jedan nalog za neke isplate ali ne smeme da otvaram jer znam da ce me zatvoriti. Pa vam je najbolje da nadjete nekog ko je napolje da vam da samo email da tamo prebacite novac pa da vam posalje, ali nista ne smete sami da radite.

to je moj stav.
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